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It would be nice to get one guy with 2025+ control, but I think we can solve that puzzle in the offseason. There will be a number of #3/#4 level starters as FA's. Wacha/Morton/Quintana/Severino/Heaney/Kikuchi/Perez. If we aren't paying up for Burnes.

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2 minutes ago, G54377 said:

It would be nice to get one guy with 2025+ control, but I think we can solve that puzzle in the offseason. There will be a number of #3/#4 level starters as FA's. Wacha/Morton/Quintana/Severino/Heaney/Kikuchi/Perez. If we aren't paying up for Burnes.

There will be plenty of ways to add starters in the offseason.

The lineup is going to be dirt cheap next year.

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15 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Nathaniel Lowe and Mountcastle are essentially the same player.  Both have career 120+ OPS.   Both are arbitration eligible and FA after 2026 season.  Mountcastle makes 4M this year.  Lowe makes less.

And your logic is that we get Scherzer and Yates for Mountcastle and they non tender Lowe.   First, you have to believe Chris Young is even dumber than you are and I can assure you he’s not.  LOL

I believe Lowe is a free Agent after this year, could resign fan favorite , but no there is no big need foy Mount, Texas might just stay the course

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Wildcard updates:
 
American League
             
 
     W
       L           PCT          GB          RS         RA        DIFF
New York Yankees
55 37 0.598 +4.5 464 363 101
Minnesota Twins
52 39 0.571 +2.0 455 402 53
Boston Red Sox
49 40 0.551            - 414 378 36
Kansas City Royals
49 43 0.533 -1.5 418 362 56
Houston Astros
46 44 0.511 -3.5 429 392 37
Tampa Bay Rays
44 46 0.489 -5.5 359 426 -67
Texas Rangers
43 48 0.473 -7.0 398 385 13
Detroit Tigers
43 48 0.473 -7.0 372 390 -18
Toronto Blue Jays
41 49 0.456 -8.5 359 419 -60
Los Angeles Angels
37 53 0.411 -12.5 363 446 -83
Oakland Athletics
34 58 0.37 -16.5 347 436 -89
Chicago White Sox
26 67 0.28 -25.0 301 467 -166
               
               
 
National League
             
 
     W
       L           PCT          GB           RS         RA        DIFF
Atlanta Braves
50 39 0.562 +3.5 384 324 60
St. Louis Cardinals
48 42 0.533 +1.0 369 402 -33
San Diego Padres
49 45 0.521            - 437 414 23
Arizona Diamondbacks
45 46 0.495 -2.5 448 441 7
New York Mets
44 45 0.494 -2.5 426 428 -2
San Francisco Giants
44 47 0.484 -3.5 402 429 -27
Pittsburgh Pirates
43 47 0.478 -4.0 370 393 -23
Cincinnati Reds
43 48 0.473 -4.5 388 368 20
Washington Nationals
42 49 0.462 -5.5 381 404 -23
Chicago Cubs
42 49 0.462 -5.5 374 398 -24
Miami Marlins
32 58 0.356 -15.0 316 450 -134
Colorado Rockies
32 59 0.352 -15.5 373 528 -155
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3 minutes ago, Safelykept said:

I believe Lowe is a free Agent after this year, could resign fan favorite , but no there is no big need foy Mount, Texas might just stay the course

No, Lowe isn’t a FA until after 2026.  He appears to have been a super 2 guy and despite what that obsessive loser troll said, he is making 7.5M this year.

 

Lowe has a good OBP this year for sure but the sub 400 slugging isn’t great and the Rangers aren’t getting great DH production from anyone outside of Langford and that’s recent and he won’t be a DH long term.

They have a need for the bat.

 

https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/al-west/texas-rangers/

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1 minute ago, Safelykept said:

I believe Lowe is a free Agent after this year, could resign fan favorite , but no there is no big need foy Mount, Texas might just stay the course

Both BRef and Fangraphs have Lowe as having 3+ years of service time and not a FA until the 2027 class.   You got different information?   Let’s hear it.

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5 minutes ago, Greg Pappas said:
Wildcard updates:
 
American League
             
 
     W
       L           PCT          GB          RS         RA        DIFF
New York Yankees
55 37 0.598 +4.5 464 363 101
Minnesota Twins
52 39 0.571 +2.0 455 402 53
Boston Red Sox
49 40 0.551            - 414 378 36
Kansas City Royals
49 43 0.533 -1.5 418 362 56
Houston Astros
46 44 0.511 -3.5 429 392 37
Tampa Bay Rays
44 46 0.489 -5.5 359 426 -67
Texas Rangers
43 48 0.473 -7.0 398 385 13
Detroit Tigers
43 48 0.473 -7.0 372 390 -18
Toronto Blue Jays
41 49 0.456 -8.5 359 419 -60
Los Angeles Angels
37 53 0.411 -12.5 363 446 -83
Oakland Athletics
34 58 0.37 -16.5 347 436 -89
Chicago White Sox
26 67 0.28 -25.0 301 467 -166
               
               
 
National League
             
 
     W
       L           PCT          GB           RS         RA        DIFF
Atlanta Braves
50 39 0.562 +3.5 384 324 60
St. Louis Cardinals
48 42 0.533 +1.0 369 402 -33
San Diego Padres
49 45 0.521            - 437 414 23
Arizona Diamondbacks
45 46 0.495 -2.5 448 441 7
New York Mets
44 45 0.494 -2.5 426 428 -2
San Francisco Giants
44 47 0.484 -3.5 402 429 -27
Pittsburgh Pirates
43 47 0.478 -4.0 370 393 -23
Cincinnati Reds
43 48 0.473 -4.5 388 368 20
Washington Nationals
42 49 0.462 -5.5 381 404 -23
Chicago Cubs
42 49 0.462 -5.5 374 398 -24
Miami Marlins
32 58 0.356 -15.0 316 450 -134
Colorado Rockies
32 59 0.352 -15.5 373 528 -155

Only 7 definitive sellers and the Rockies have nothing to sell.

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2 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/07/astros-trade-rumors-christian-walker-diamondbacks-first-base.html

@Sports Guy just to stir the imagination. 

Yep. Mounty makes a lot of sense for them as well. I’m skeptical the Os would do that though, at least during the season. 
 

Certainly a potential team in the offseason but the Astros may end up being the second best team in the AL and the Os biggest challenge, so I’m just skeptical they do this now.  I mean, in skeptical they trade Mounty at all (during the season) but if they did, I don’t think it would be to Houston. 

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No, Lowe isn’t a FA until after 2026.  He appears to have been a super 2 guy and despite what that obsessive loser troll said, he is making 7.5M this year.

 

Lowe has a good OBP this year for sure but the sub 400 slugging isn’t great and the Rangers aren’t getting great DH production from anyone outside of Langford and that’s recent and he won’t be a DH long term.

They have a need for the bat.

 

https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/al-west/texas-rangers/

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Yes maybe so, dont see how. rookie limits 2019, last 4 years full time, what credit for 2020, youre better at this than me ,but looks like hes in his Arb 2 year. FA after 2025, but that would make Mounty kinda redundant. At least for next year.

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9 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Both BRef and Fangraphs have Lowe as having 3+ years of service time and not a FA until the 2027 class.   You got different information?   Let’s hear it.

That cannot be right unless he was extended, this is his 6th year almost full time.and he definitely has more than 3.1 service time.

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2 minutes ago, Safelykept said:

Yes maybe so, dont see how. rookie limits 2019, last 4 years full time, what credit for 2020, youre better at this than me ,but looks like hes in his Arb 2 year. FA after 2025, but that would make Mounty kinda redundant. At least for next year.

But he’s not. Lowe has 2 more years of service time..he has 4 arb years because he was a super 2.

The Rangers bringing him back for 10+M?  I have my doubts, unless the power starts coming back in the second half, which it may. 
 

Either way, they have a need for another bat. Would that need matter in this deal? Maybe not. As I said, maybe they want younger and more controlled talent but you are only going to get so much for rental players and Scherzer is a risk, which will keep his value down.

Mounty represents someone who can help them now but really for next year and maybe the year after. They will not be rebuilding and they will go after at least one bat in the offseason..for sure.

So, does getting Mounty now eliminate that need and if it does, is that still worth it?  Who knows but I would be calling to find out.

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Hey boss!   Some guy proposed a trade of Scherzer and Yates for Ryan Mountcastle.   
 

Boss:  “Why in the world would I do that?  We already have Lowe and he’s a LH hitting Mountcastle.

Well boss, he says Mountcastle is cheaper.  Might save you 3M.

Boss: “ So I’d basically be trading Scherzer and Yates for nothing but it would save me 3M?”

Right.

Boss:  “This is your last warning.  Stay off of Twitter!”

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