Povich headed to Toronto

[Sports Guy]

4 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

The way he struggled. Wild, mostly wild high and with reduced velocity. Just my observation/opinion no need to get all defensive that he may in fact be seriously injured.

I’m not getting defensive.  I didn’t see much of the start but what little I did see, he was hitting 97 but was just wild.  I didn’t hear them talking about him shaking his arm or some concerned over decreased velo later in the game.
 

Bradish has had a lot of base runners this year.  He has been walking guys.  He’s just  been able to get out of it because of his stuff.

More than either of those things, the Os have been saying fore a few days that they want to get him some extra rest.

Now, maybe there is something more there but based on anything I have seen or read, nothing from that start should alarm anyone

[Bemorewins]

3 hours ago, Just Regular said:

Reminder that Szymborski in chat a couple weeks back mentioned the high offense Internatlonal League and tepid so far MLB of 2024 just about makes a pitcher's raw AAA stats and translated MLB stats the same.

He's 24.1 years old, hand picked by this regime, and been the best pitcher in his league for two months.     There ought to be hope here he can outplay Suarez or Irvin when Kremer returns the same as there is hope Norby can outplay Urias when Mateo returns.

If Povich can outpitch Irvin’s sub 3 ERA he must be one of the top pitching prospects (like top 2/3) in the sport!

Otherwise, it might be a good idea to have some reasonable expectations. Same goes for Norby.

[Malike]

8 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

If Povich can outpitch Irvin’s sub 3 ERA he must be one of the top pitching prospects (like top 2/3) in the sport!

Otherwise, it might be a good idea to have some reasonable expectations. Same goes for Norby.

Cole Irvin has an xERA of 4.50, I wouldn't expect him to be sub 3 all year.

[emmett16]

7 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

If Povich can outpitch Irvin’s sub 3 ERA he must be one of the top pitching prospects (like top 2/3) in the sport!

Otherwise, it might be a good idea to have some reasonable expectations. Same goes for Norby.

Seems like a reasonable comp to me. 

Cade Povich 

Fastball	Slider	Curveball	Changeup	Command	FV
45 / 50	50 / 55	50 / 55	35 / 50	45 / 60	50

Cole Irvin

Fastball	Slider	Curveball	Changeup	Command	FV
45 / 45	45 / 45	45 / 45	55 / 55	55 / 55	35+

 

[Just Regular]

We'll never know real health statuses until circumstances force actions but I do think Kyle Bradish has generally earned ace status if he's right and those pitchers are going to be babied especially as SIGBOT is grappling with the situation it tries to avoid - a multi-year commitment to a pitcher.

I wouldn't be surprised if current Orioles leaders look at the Marlins Sandy Alcantara or the Diamondbacks Zac Gallen handling as mismanagement, and time will tell how much they let their top talents go.

You know today those first three get 1 more start, and you hope they get 4-5 more after the 162.

[Malike]

8 minutes ago, emmett16 said:

Seems like a reasonable comp to me. 

Cade Povich 

Fastball	Slider	Curveball	Changeup	Command	FV
45 / 50	50 / 55	50 / 55	35 / 50	45 / 60	50

Cole Irvin

Fastball	Slider	Curveball	Changeup	Command	FV
45 / 45	45 / 45	45 / 45	55 / 55	55 / 55	35+

 

I really hope Povich has a higher K/9 than 5.8, it's not sustainable, in my opinion.

[Roy Firestone]

1 hour ago, Malike said:

You've been pining for him to come up, Roy. You got your wish.

correct, but I still dont want to have high expectations on a spot start (assuming he gets the start)

[Rbiggs2525]

I remember Tony Gonsolin losing his command last year trying to pitch through UCL tear. Bradish also did not have immaculate command before last couple years. Will definitely be something to follow. 

[RZNJ]

10 minutes ago, Malike said:

I really hope Povich has a higher K/9 than 5.8, it's not sustainable, in my opinion.

A 5.8 K rate is definitely sustainable.  

[Malike]

Just now, RZNJ said:

A 5.8 K rate is definitely sustainable.  

You got me there, but not with the desired results, I suppose!

[RZNJ]

1 minute ago, Rbiggs2525 said:

I remember Tony Gonsolin losing his command last year trying to pitch through UCL tear. Bradish also did not have immaculate command before last couple years. Will definitely be something to follow. 

Bradish’ last few batters were concerning.  He was clearly tired but couldn’t command the ball at all.   It was alarming to watch but it doesn’t mean anything more than he was tired.  So far.

[emmett16]

28 minutes ago, Malike said:

I really hope Povich has a higher K/9 than 5.8, it's not sustainable, in my opinion.

Me too.  I’m hoping Irvin is a floor for him. 

[wildcard]

 What concerns me is that Povich appears to being promoted out of necessity not because he earned the promotion.    A 5.04 ERA and a WHIP of 1.42  in May does not say promoted him now to me.   I am hoping the O's defense can help him out.  

The Bradish thing is concerning.   I don't know what to make of it yet.  But if he is gone the O's could be  in trouble before long.

[Can_of_corn]

11 minutes ago, wildcard said:

 What concerns me is that Povich appears to being promoted out of necessity not because he earned the promotion.    A 5.04 ERA and a WHIP of 1.42  in May does not say promoted him now to me.   I am hoping the O's defense can help him out.  

The Bradish thing is concerning.   I don't know what to make of it yet.  But if he is gone the O's could be  in trouble before long.

Just think of it as him having already earned it but he was blocked.

[Aristotelian]

2 hours ago, hallThalmt18h said:

For a fraction of a second, I read the thread title and thought the Orioles traded him to the Blue Jays.

Same! Especially since there is an active thread on potential trades with the Jays. 

Joining the taxi squad means he isn't actually on the roster yet, correct? There would have to be an IL or other roster move. If we think he is starting on Thursday, will we perhaps option Tate or Akin after they pitch today?