Grade the Rogers for Norby/Stowers trade

[RarityFlaherty]

I voted meh because it feels like an overrpay, but this does feel a little like getting Flaherty at the deadline last year. The only difference is the two extra years of control so we can potentially get a good year out of Rogers like Flaherty is having this year. Rogers and Flaherty were both guys that flashed a lot of promise in their careers at first and both had injuries and fell off.  Hopefully Elias sees something similar in Rogers that he did with Flaherty that’s lead to the great year he’s having this year.  If Rogers can be a solid starter next year, or the year after, this trade could turn out to be pretty decent.

 

Now I would really just like to see us add a lefty bullpen option, but maybe that’s the plan for Rogers in the playoffs like they did with Flaherty last year. Would have been real nice if they could have thrown in a lower level prospect or two and added Tanner Scott to this trade. 

[Ohfan67]

8 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

Worst trade the Elias front office has ever done. By far. They could have at least gotten Tanner Scott instead and even that would have been an over pay. They could have gotten the same type of pitcher as Rogers off the waiver wire. They might have even been able to get Rogers off the waiver wire if they waited long enough.

Abysmal trade. Absolutely horrible.

I don't love the trade, but that's total baloney. I guess hyperbole would be the nicer adjective to use. 

[eddie83]

If Norby and Stowers become anything more than league average I would be surprised. I have nothing against either one but they both have big questions.  
 

The rotation is “better.” Question is by how much.  

[Osornot]

I believe that, for the naysayers, if we didn't make a move they would be upset. If we made a huge splash (Skubal, Miller, etc) there would have been weeping and gnashing of teeth because of the cost.  

[Billy F-Face3]

Just now, Osornot said:

I believe that, for the naysayers, if we didn't make a move they would be upset. If we made a huge splash (Skubal, Miller, etc) there would have been weeping and gnashing of teeth because of the cost.  

If we had stood pat with Eflin I would have been OK with that. Giving away valuable assets for pennies on the dollar is ludicrous.

[Finisher]

Just annoying af we couldn't have signed some random FA starter this offseason.

[Osornot]

1 minute ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

If we had stood pat with Eflin I would have been OK with that. Giving away valuable assets for pennies on the dollar is ludicrous.

Hyperbole...pennies on the dollar? I guess time will tell. I am one that believes that Rogers will fit in nicely in the 3-4 range.

[Billy F-Face3]

6 minutes ago, Ohfan67 said:

I don't love the trade, but that's total baloney. I guess hyperbole would be the nicer adjective to use. 

People ridiculed me when I reacted negatively to the Flaherty trade last year too. Buy eventually people came to start ridiculing Flaherty instead because I wasn't wrong.

[Ohfan67]

Just now, Billy F-Face3 said:

People ridiculed me when I reacted negatively to the Flaherty trade last year too. Buy eventually people came to start ridiculing Flaherty instead because I wasn't wrong.

You said that Rogers was the type of pitcher that the O's could get off the waiver wire. That is baloney and you know it. I am not challenging your dislike of the trade, but Rogers is a fine back-end-of-the-rotation pitcher and equating him to a waiver wire pickup is totally inaccurate. 

[RarityFlaherty]

1 minute ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

People ridiculed me when I reacted negatively to the Flaherty trade last year too. Buy eventually people came to start ridiculing Flaherty instead because I wasn't wrong.

Look at Flaherty this year though. Obviously Elias saw something he liked that is probably contributing to his success this season. I think this trade could work out better for us since we still have another two years of control with Rogers. 

[SilverRocket]

22 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

Worst trade the Elias front office has ever done. By far. They could have at least gotten Tanner Scott instead

Lol

[foxfield]

The trade seems expensive or the return seems light.  But the Orioles got exactly what they needed.  A controllable left-handed started with additional years.  Would have liked better but glad the top three didn't go.

Hour and a half to go....would like another high leverage arm, but if we are done I think it is a good return.

[luismatos4prez]

It was time for Stowers and Norby to get ML at-bats. At some point, the players union would have gotten involved. I'm sure Mike shopped them around and this was the best deal they could get.

I voted meh. We got a 4.50 ERA starter who averages 5 innings a start. A rich man's Cole Irvin, and not that rich.

His fastball was 94.6 in his outstanding year in 2021. It's 92.2 now. Strikeouts are down a ton unsurprisingly.

[Roy Firestone]

I absolutely HATE this deal. We gave away two potential major league players for a mediocre number 5 pitcher with lat and back problems. Hopefully theres more to come in another deal. But right now, I think we just got fleeced.

[oriole]

I think both Stowers and Norby will be good players. But the truth is that there’s no room for them. I like to imagine Elias could have gotten more for them, but hey…maybe he couldn’t. Rogers is an improvement over the Suarez/Povich/McDermott spot. But he’s  going to be battling it out with Kremer as to who the true #5 is on this team. 
 

I voted Meh…I don’t think I’d have pulled the trigger on it if I were Elias. But I understand the reasoning. I don’t expect Rogers to be a player we all love to watch either.