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8 minutes ago, Uli2001 said:

He's not a game manager. He's likely a good behind-the-scenes baseball man.

That’s exactly how I have felt about Harbaugh for years.   

They both have no feel for the game, inflexible, just no sense for the situation they are faced with.

I get it, they are rewarding him for the crappy teams he had to manage but we keep getting too many examples of this.  I don’t think he’s the guy for the team at this point in time. 

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I believe it was illegal to pinch hit for Eloy the first time through the order. The Earl Weaver Rule. Around 1980-82 time frame, Earl often had a platoon at DH.   Crowley or Dwyer from the

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I don't think they're mooing Kimbrel. 

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If he can't perform because of crying babies then he should be sleeping in a hotel the night before his start at the very least.  He's supposed to be an ace on a team fighting for a pennant and h

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OriolesMagic83 Hangout Grand Counsel

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Just now, Surhoffan17 said:

Maybe it's cleat cleaner gate? 

I do remember a worse game from Mussina in 95 and he was a true ace. All these guys have bad games once in a great while. 

That said, it was especially frustrating after we scores 4 to tie it 

The O's scored like 9 runs against Pedro one opening day.  Pedro was an ace the rest of the year and might have won the Cy Young.

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8 minutes ago, Spy Fox said:

Other than the IBB decision, really don't get the blaming of Hyde in that inning. I doubt there's an MLB manager who would pull their ace in that situation, unless it is a playoff game or injury-related. 

You wanna blame someone.?..make sure at the top of the list ,its Corbin Burnes.

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8 minutes ago, Pat Kelly said:

Need Burns to step when it matters. Has not had a single outing this year where he has given up zero runs.  Very good but not Gerrit Cole or peak Verlander. 

He has given up 1 run 9 of the 25 starts pretty good if you ask me.  

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1 minute ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

The O's scored like 9 runs against Pedro one opening day.  Pedro was an ace the rest of the year and might have won the Cy Young.

I do remember us beating him on opening day but not like that.

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2 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

This is the key. I get having a bad night. But an ace DOES not give up 4 runs after his team ties up the game after he buried them to start with. 

Burnes is lacking something. An ace knows how to limit damage when they don't have their stuff or command. An ace settles down when his offense puts him back in the game. 

An ace does not poop his damn pants at home, on a Friday night, in front of a huge crowd after his team fights back into the game.  

It's one bad game against a hot hitting team.  If he's still shaky after tonight then there should be more concern, but still, it's not like top pitchers don't go through some tough stretches as well.  

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I do remember us beating him on opening day but not like that.

For some reason I remember how badly we beat him.  I think there were snow flurries, which probably didn't help Pedro being from the Dominican.  I believe Pedro ended the season w/ an ERA around 2.50, but that kept his ERA elevated for quite a while.

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Is Burnes known for being temperamental?   Is he big on routine being the same every time?

Tonight he presumably spent significant time with Adley coming up with a plan of how to attack Boston batters.   Then he got out to the mound and the cleat cleaner wasn't there and he was visibly angry about it, yetlling at the dugout.   Delayed the start of the game a couple minutes.   And the field is dry, there's no mud, so how important is the cleat cleaner tonight, really?   Is it just part of his routine?

Wondering if all that garbage had an effect on him.   You can say it shoudln't, but some people are like that.   They get into routines and are a little bit OCD and want everything to be right.   I'm not saying that I know Burnes is that type of person -- just wondering if he is, and if anyone knows any more.

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