Rule 5 Draft

[hoosiers]

Love that K/BB ratio. He's been old at every level, but he put up some outstanding numbers across the board last year. A K/BB ratio greater than 5 is almost unheard of.

Like the pick a lot.

I agree.

Sounds a bit like Hoey/McCrory - has taken off once healthy.

[YardBirds13]

This guy might have a problem with the Orioles' no-facial-hair policy. As of now, they don't allow Bierds.

Good to see you're still in mid-season re-cap form Paul.

Perhaps a Winter Meetings re-cap article is in store sometime next week?

[Sports Guy]

This is what angers me about the Orioles though....Here is a perfectly good, young power arm with good upside....We see how easy it is to acquire guys like this and yet, on a team with so many holes, we target bullpen arms in trades for our best players.

What is the point of that?

We need positional players and starters much more than a BP arm.

[Mackus]

Good pick but I would have preferred Barton, who could be our starting CFer.

Not me, Barton had worse numbers (comparatively) than Bierd did at AA last year 2 full years older.

[Mackus]

This is what angers me about the Orioles though....Here is a perfectly good, young power arm with good upside....We see how easy it is to acquire guys like this and yet, on a team with so many holes, we target bullpen arms in trades for our best players.

What is the point of that?

We need positional players and starters much more than a BP arm.

I don't think we are targetting BP arms as the main guys coming back in our trades. We are interested in Broxton, but he is much more like Papelbon than he is like an average power arm. He could start or come out of the pen, and has solid MLB experience. He's not a bad guy to be asking for in a trade with the Dodgers, just obviously shouldn't be the main guy.

[Scribo]

This is what angers me about the Orioles though....Here is a perfectly good, young power arm with good upside....We see how easy it is to acquire guys like this and yet, on a team with so many holes, we target bullpen arms in trades for our best players.

Great point.

On the upside, maybe having him around will reduce their taste for guys like Sherrill.

In their defense, many other teams also over-value relievers. Good bullpens are important, but individual relief pitchers usually aren't.

[PaulFolk]

Good to see you're still in mid-season re-cap form Paul.

Perhaps a Winter Meetings re-cap article is in store sometime next week?

That wouldn't be much of a recap, unfortunately.

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ORIOLES DEPART WINTER MEETINGS

[Sports Guy]

I don't think we are targetting BP arms as the main guys coming back in our trades. We are interested in Broxton, but he is much more like Papelbon than he is like an average power arm. He could start or come out of the pen, and has solid MLB experience. He's not a bad guy to be asking for in a trade with the Dodgers, just obviously shouldn't be the main guy.

Meloan, Broxton, Morrow and Sherrill.

They are trying to build a good BP, through trades, on a team that MacPhail himself has said won't be competing until 2010.

There is no logic behind that. It totally contradicts that point.

Just acquire cheap arms, like you did with Bierd, through things like the rule 5, the waiver wire and when you trade guys like Mora and Millar.

But to target them in trades for Bedard is just stupid IMO.

[Sports Guy]

Great point.

On the upside, maybe having him around will reduce their taste for guys like Sherrill.

In their defense, many other teams also over-value relievers. Good bullpens are important, but individual relief pitchers usually aren't.

Yea but if you aren't willing to trade those arms, them being overvalued by other teams is meaningless.

There is also no logic behind saying, well lets trade Bedard, Miggy, Mora and BRob but lets keep bradford and walker because our BP was so bad last year.

Well, our rotation sucked too but it isn't stopping us from trying to trade Bedard.

[tywright]

Good pick but I would have preferred Barton, who could be our starting CFer.

Maybe we didn't take him because we're going to get Kemp or Jones. Barton would jsut be rotting away on the bench. Bierd is the power righty reliever we need for the future.

[Sports Guy]

Maybe we didn't take him because we're going to get Kemp or Jones. Barton would jsut be rotting away on the bench. Bierd is the power righty reliever we need for the future.

I believe there are still 3 OF spots...If you get Kemp OR Jones, that leaves another spot out there.

[tywright]

I believe there are still 3 OF spots...If you get Kemp OR Jones, that leaves another spot out there.

Well we're getting an OF for Roberts, aren't we?

[Sports Guy]

Well we're getting an OF for Roberts, aren't we?

I must have missed the deal...Did we trade him?

Deals fall apart all the time...Unless they had deals in place before the rule 5, to assume we are going to get these guys is foolish.

[The Azman]

maybe if the starters could go longer than 6-7 IP, this problem would take care of itself?

[Frobby]

I like his numbers, and he always has had good command.

But most imporantly, RANDOR BIERD! Now that is a name I can get behind.

I think middle relief is a great place for Rule 5 talent. Good choice.