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OFFNY Hangout Grand Counsel

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FREDDY GARCIA

IP:. 6

H:o 3

R:.. 2

BB: 2

SO: 2

Pitches: 66 (42 Strikes, 24 Balls)

2013 ERA: 4.84

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PITCHES BY INNING

15 (10 Strikes)

91 (71 Strikes)

10 (81 Strikes)

10 (71 Strikes)

61 (41 Strikes)

16 (61 Strikes)

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    • LookitsPuck
      What the Os did at the deadline will matter

      By LookitsPuck · Posted

      Going into 2025 with Povich or Rogers penciled in the rotation would really make me question Elias. This rotation is down Burnes. They're going into 2024 with a currently injured Grayson, Zach Eflin, Dean Kremer and *potentially* Suarez with the depth being McDermott, Povich, and Rogers.  That is not a recipe for success. We saw Elias gamble this year by not signing a 5th starter. He arguably got lucky with Suarez, but there were injury question marks aplenty (Bradish, Means, Wells) right from the jump and performance issues (Irvin). This club needs 2 starters. A top tier and a reasonably reliable, back of the rotation type. There will be injuries. Setup an open competition for the 5th spot. If it ends up being Rogers, OK. But gifting him anything isn't wise.
    • Allan Bryant
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      By Allan Bryant · Posted

      Neither have I . However I do admit I was so excited about Elias after restructuring the whole organization and farm system . The earlier than expected winning just added to my expectations and excitement .  I bought the Elias cheap thrifty method was due to Angelos . Now with Rubenstein takeover , what is Elias's excuse to continue cheap thrifts ?    I like Elias's deadline moves, except the Rogers .  I have no idea why O’s 2nd half swoon occurred . 
    • Aristotelian
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      By Aristotelian · Posted

      I would think his relationship with the ownership and GM will be more decisive than the players. That said, if he enjoyed his experience here that might give us a very slight edge. Currently the betting markets have us at #2 behind the Mets, but with a bunch of suitors.  It is way too early to give up on Rogers based on four starts. He has options and Elias paid a decent price to get him. I think you are forgetting how bad Irvin was, but regardless he is gone and Rogers is here. 
    • webbrick2010
      What the Os did at the deadline will matter

      By webbrick2010 · Posted

      Wow the deadline that never stops not giving Not only did Elias not acquire the talent necessary to have a deep playoff run, it seems people are content that he also weakened the roster for 2025 I can hardly believe people are happily planning on a roster that includes Povich, Domiguez, Soto, or especially Rogers, while losing Burns and Santander are gone Is this just a masochist Oriole Fan thing, that we have to get buy on castoffs from other organizations?? Enjoy watching guys like Kopech, Flaherty, Jazz Chisolm, etc all acquired at the deadline playing in the WS  
    • Can_of_corn
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      By Can_of_corn · Posted

      I will say that the second half swoon has really damped down the Elias is infallible narrative. I don't see anyone posting about how they need to lock him up to an unprecedented contract for an executive.
    • Allan Bryant
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      By Allan Bryant · Posted

      If it turns out that Elias is cheap , then he shouldn’t be surprised if Orioles fans become cheap as well 
    • bpilktree67
      What the Os did at the deadline will matter

      By bpilktree67 · Posted

      Depth can be a lot of things though.  It isn’t necessarily how many injuries you have but whom the injuries are too.  I believe the teams with real good depth have a lot of similar pieces of bench guys, back end rotation guys, and lower leverage guys.  What pretty much no team has is depth to replace your top starters and hitters.  The top rotation guys that can pitch well give you chance every game and eat innings are very rare and about impossible to replace no matter how deep you are.  Looking at the Rays last year they are deepest organization other then Dodgers and they held on awhile.  if your losing 4th and 5th starters and or bottom of the order guys those are replaceable.  You lose your top starters and hitters you can’t replace them.  That is what happened to Braves this year.  It wasn’t they lost lot of guys it was they lost Strider, Acuna, Albies, Riley you just don’t have guys to replace them.  I think most good teams have 1, 2 maybe 3 good starters then you probably have about 4-6 guys in the back end type guys that are pretty similar some just might not have experience.  You can mix and match filling holes for the 4th and 5th starters from that group.  You can’t fill in for a number 1 or 2 guy.  

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