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Orioles select 3b Michael Almanzar of the Boston Red Sox in Rule V Draft


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Question: Can you drop a Rule V guy from your 40-man roster before spring training? That is, if we sign enough free agents where we need to clear a roster spot, do we have the option of dumping Almanzar, or is it required that we dump someone else? I guess technically we'd have to offer Almanzar back to the Red Sox, I just don't know if that's something you are allowed to do before spring training begins.

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If chosen in the Rule 5 draft, a player must be kept on the selecting team's 25-man major league roster for the entire season after the draft?he may not be optioned or designated to the minors. The selecting team may, at any time, waive the Rule 5 draftee. If a Rule 5 draftee clears waivers by not signing with a new MLB team, he must be offered back to the original team, effectively canceling the Rule 5 draft choice. Once a Rule 5 draftee spends an entire season on his new team's 25-man roster, his status reverts to normal and he may be optioned or designated for assignment.

To prevent the abuse of the Rule 5 draft, the rule also states that the draftee must be active for at least 90 days. This keeps teams from drafting players, then placing them on the disabled list for the majority of the season. For example, if a Rule 5 draftee was only active for 67 days in his first season with his new club, he must be active for an additional 23 days in his second season to satisfy the Rule 5 requirements.

Any player chosen in the Rule 5 draft may be traded to any team while under the Rule 5 restrictions, but the restrictions transfer to the new team. If the new team does not want to keep the player on its 25-man roster for the season, he must be offered back to the team of which he was a member when chosen in the draft.

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Agree with comment in OP that it is really unusual for a team with playoff aspirations to carry a Rule V guy.

Otherwise, I will trust DD and the scouting department. These guys usually don't pan out, but I have no problem with a flyer on the guy for now. I think our scouting department has earned the benefit of the doubt.

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Yeah, I don't really see the problem here, his numbers relative to age and league the past two years are rather encouraging, even if they aren't going to knock your socks off. 16 homers at 22 years old in the Eastern League IS actually saying something: That's tied for ninth in the league believe it or not, only 7 home runs behind the league leader. He's a reasonably interesting prospect that they're probably only going to try keeping on the big league roster as a utility type if he presses the issue in spring training. They kept McFarland and Flaherty the past two years because they had clear functions on the big league club that first year, and actually played rather well. There isn't much to suggest that they're going to carry a dead weight player just to carry one, and there's the outside chance Boston doesn't feel like buying him back from us in the event of our trying to kick him off the roster.

40-man spots are always valuable, but I don't really think this specifically interferes with moves they could make, seeing as how there are a couple guys currently on the 40 that they could designate right now without serious fear of losing. I don't think you're going to see them pass on a free agent because they need to keep Johnny Monell protected, they'd be passing on free agents for other reasons entirely.

Glad to see they're not totally asleep I guess, though I'd like to see them exit December with a little more than this to show.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Per <a href="https://twitter.com/jimcallisMLB">@jimcallisMLB</a>, Michael Almanzar was signed to bonus of 1.5M when Red Sox signed him in July of 2007. Was top international sign then.</p>— Steve Melewski (@masnSteve) <a href="

">December 12, 2013</a></blockquote>

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I can see how people can complain that little has been done so far this offseason, but not about this move. It's a flyer. You bring him into spring training and see if he surprises. If not, you offer him back. No harm, no foul.

Agree 100% I guess some other guys were taken before this guy that we passed on...I will take a look at the Rule 5 results now.

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As I mentioned in the other thread, I don't see how a team with playoff hopes can carry a rule v position player, but I guess they want to give him a shot.

http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2013/12/orioles-select-almanzar-in-rule-5-draft.html

My theory, which I'm sure others have thought of too, is that he could provide an another option at third base if/when Machado begins season on the DL. Kid's got some pop and is a former 1.5 million bonus baby, so I'm sure there's some untapped talent here with this kid.

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I am more interested in learning about Julio. He fits the bill for what we are looking for but at AAA. Anyone know anything about him?

Technically, the Orioles obtained a left-handed hitting outfielder by selecting Julio Borbon in the Triple-A phase of the Rule 5.

http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2013/12/wrapping-up-the-winter-meetings.html

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Just looked at an article from this past May after Almanzar got off to a hot start in the Eastern League. To paraphrase it says the he was starting to look like a big leaguer at 3B and, I believe his manager, Kevin Boles, calls him a big body with big potential. Almanzar had an .822 OPS vs. lefthanders this year. I still don't get how he makes it. I don't see how the move could help this season but maybe it's just a way to get him into the system and increase the overall talent base. The drafting of Almanzar has to make Reimold, Pearce, and Valencia a little nervous. If he makes the team, one, two, or all three of these guys are in trouble.

Agree, if nothing else, he seems like a worthy add to the farm system (IF we can somehow work out a deal with the Red Sox to keep him) that is bereft of hitters with upside at the upper levels.

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I am more interested in learning about Julio. He fits the bill for what we are looking for but at AAA. Anyone know anything about him?

http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2013/12/wrapping-up-the-winter-meetings.html

Here's his Baseball Reference page: Julio Borbon

He's 27...been up and down in the Majors for a few years, and is considered a good glove guy. His line for the Cubs last year was .202/.284/.279 (.563 OPS).

Not a lot to see...probably AAA filler.

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