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Dan Duquette can't get the financial go-ahead from owner Peter Angelos to meet Morales' asking price


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I tend to avoid Angelos threads. My question is straightforward and objectively stated. Have any former gms gone on record and explicitly stated that Angelos interfered with their daily and within budget operations of the franchise? I am not talking about large-long term contracts which I would assume typically involve ownership approval.
This should be a sticky: http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/08/26/Franchises/Peter-Angelos.aspx
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I tend to avoid Angelos threads. My question is straightforward and objectively stated. Have any former gms gone on record and explicitly stated that Angelos interfered with their daily and within budget operations of the franchise? I am not talking about large-long term contracts which I would assume typically involve ownership approval.

When Flanagan and Jim Duquette were GMs, I remember the talk was that they couldn't even get a budget number from Angelos. PA had to approve everything.

It wasn't until MacPhail took over that there was a budget number to hit.

Just what I remember. Maybe others can speak to this.

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No. The Johnson trade occurred at the deadline to tender offers to arbitration-eligible players. The Orioles did not want to go to arbitration with JJ, as they had decided that they did not want to pay him the estimated $10.8 million salary he stood to get. The real choice was trade or non-tender. Waiting and trying to trade him later really was not an option.

I'm saying they should have kept him, or at least keep that option in play. So you offer him arbitration and still look to deal him if you like the other options better. If you fail to sign anyone else, like they did, you still have Johnson instead of hoping that Hunter can get the job done (and get prohibitively more expensive in 2015 and 2016), and carrying Britton/Stinson/Escolona on the roster.

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Exactly. KEEP THE DRAFT PICK DAN!!

I'm not looking forward to the cost of Vlad 2.0

Vlad 1.0 still hasn't been fully paid. IIRC he's still owed $3 million total to be paid in (I believe) 2016 and 2017 - not sure I remember the years correctly.

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I don't accept any tweet at face value, but I see only two explanations for how this off season has gone. Either DD is hopelessly incompetent, or PA is up too his old tricks.PA has a history of meddling. DD does not have a history of incompetence.

I think it's certainly plausible that DD has a budget and hasn't been able to close the deal on a few free agents, either because he wasn't willing to overpay or the players simply didn't find Baltimore appealing. I wouldn't necessarily call that incompetence, nor would I call Angelos setting a budget "up to his old tricks."

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You don't spend 7 on Balfour when you can possibly be on the hook for 10.6 for Johnson. You just cant do that with a budget of around 100 million. You are advocating them allocating 20% of the total budget on a trio of relief pitchers.

You trade Johnson if you want to sign Balfour. Or you don't sign Balfour. I'm not sure why they should be concerned about payroll ratios when they're committed to play four pre-arb position players and keep their entire rotation to around $12mm.

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My question is, we went in to the off season looking for a SP and a bat. We freed up 10M and used it to replace an expensive CL with a better cheaper one, and added another set up man. If they only have 100 marbles, where are they getting the money for the SP and Bat?

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FWIW, found this in the comments section of Roch's latest post:

Roch Kubatko Mod ? 2 hours ago

That's according to a report out of Boston. No one here is hearing that

That is because the report is coming from the agent. DD and the agent agreed on a price then DD goes to Angelos to get approval and he won't give him a yes or no answer.

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