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One of them could be for the right return

I mean I can't say I know for certain one way or the other but Bundy and Gausman are upper tier pitching prospects and pitching on the market is expensive. Not to mention his constant reiteration of "talent from the farm system" mantra. The Orioles want to stay competitive for longer than 2014. I think Duquette is smarter than what people here are giving him credit for (reference to these Lee/Hamels proposals). If the White Sox come and say "Sale for Bundy?" then you rob the man and be on your way but thats simply not happening so the "right return" is a pipe dream.

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I mean I can't say I know for certain one way or the other but Bundy and Gausman are upper tier pitching prospects and pitching on the market is expensive. Not to mention his constant reiteration of "talent from the farm system" mantra. The Orioles want to stay competitive for longer than 2014. I think Duquette is smarter than what people here are giving him credit for (reference to these Lee/Hamels proposals). If the White Sox come and say "Sale for Bundy?" then you rob the man and be on your way but thats simply not happening so the "right return" is a pipe dream.

That's about right.

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I mean I can't say I know for certain one way or the other but Bundy and Gausman are upper tier pitching prospects and pitching on the market is expensive. Not to mention his constant reiteration of "talent from the farm system" mantra. The Orioles want to stay competitive for longer than 2014. I think Duquette is smarter than what people here are giving him credit for (reference to these Lee/Hamels proposals). If the White Sox come and say "Sale for Bundy?" then you rob the man and be on your way but thats simply not happening so the "right return" is a pipe dream.
I'd give up Bundy plus for Hamels. He's a genuine TOR and could get us to the WS the next few years. Bundy is no sure thing and has already had one TJ. It's not in CHI's interest to trade Sale, it is in PHI's to trade Hamels. He's 4/90 M with a buy out for the 5th. The more we added to the package the more cash would come back from Philly.
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I'd give up Bundy plus for Hamels. He's a genuine TOR and could get us to the WS the next few years. Bundy is no sure thing and has already had one TJ. It's not in CHI's interest to trade Sale, it is in PHI's to trade Hamels. He's 4/90 M with a buy out for the 5th. The more we added to the package the more cash would come back from Philly.

Not including the option we're talking 22.5M/yr for the next 4 years. Philly would have to eat a lot of cash. Just as you said, if Philly eats cash we're sending more than just Bundy (probably a lot more). Do we want to unload our farm system on a single pitcher?

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Not including the option we're talking 22.5M/yr for the next 4 years. Philly would have to eat a lot of cash. Just as you said, if Philly eats cash we're sending more than just Bundy (probably a lot more). Do we want to unload our farm system on a single pitcher?
How much of Hamels' salary can we handle? 15M? You don't know, but who do you give them to get them to eat that much. I doubt it need be Harvey or Gausman. I'd gladly send then Gonzo or Schoop and EdRod in addition.
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How much of Hamels' salary can we handle? 15M? You don't know, but who do you give them to get them to eat that much. I doubt it need be Harvey or Gausman. I'd gladly send then Gonzo or Schoop and EdRod in addition.

Hamels is a TOR starter, borderline ace, who isn't THAT old. They are going to want AT LEAST one of Harvey, Gausman, Bundy.

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Hamels is a TOR starter' date=' borderline ace, who isn't THAT old. They are going to want AT LEAST one of Harvey, Gausman, Bundy.[/quote']If you would read the thread you would see I said Bundy plus. That plus would be Gonzo/Schoop and Ed Rod/Berry.
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I'm at the point where I'm fine with our 6 starters. I think what we should do is bolster the pen and be ready to bring guys in early in a playoff game. We need another late inning shut down reliever. I think we are viewing De La Rosa as that guy, plus he is left handed. But Benoit, Koji, Mike Dunn (L), would be other great targets. Imagine a playoff matchup where Norris starts. If the other Oak or LAA or Sea stack LH hitters we could bring De Le Rosa in the 4th or 5th and let the back end match up. We can't afford an ace but maybe we can get an Ace like performance from a real strong pen.

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I'm at the point where I'm fine with our 6 starters. I think what we should do is bolster the pen and be ready to bring guys in early in a playoff game. We need another late inning shut down reliever. I think we are viewing De La Rosa as that guy, plus he is left handed. But Benoit, Koji, Mike Dunn (L), would be other great targets. Imagine a playoff matchup where Norris starts. If the other Oak or LAA or Sea stack LH hitters we could bring De Le Rosa in the 4th or 5th and let the back end match up. We can't afford an ace but maybe we can get an Ace like performance from a real strong pen.

I'm fine with the bolstering the pen option if it's someone like Benoit, Bastardo, or Kojo.

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I mean I can't say I know for certain one way or the other but Bundy and Gausman are upper tier pitching prospects and pitching on the market is expensive. Not to mention his constant reiteration of "talent from the farm system" mantra. The Orioles want to stay competitive for longer than 2014. I think Duquette is smarter than what people here are giving him credit for (reference to these Lee/Hamels proposals). If the White Sox come and say "Sale for Bundy?" then you rob the man and be on your way but thats simply not happening so the "right return" is a pipe dream.

Best post in this thread hands down.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>orioles and cardinals are among teams looking at catcher kurt suzuki. story up on <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSSports">@CBSSports</a></p>— Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) <a href="

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>orioles and cardinals are among teams looking at catcher kurt suzuki. story up on <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSSports">@CBSSports</a></p>— Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) <a href="
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Yeah..same thing as what I posted...nothing really new. I think that he would be a perfect fit with Buck, but the cost.....

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