Cruz or Butler

[Dark Helmet]

Or even Nolan Reimold. He could do that.

Yeah. I just don't see Butler as an upgrade worth spending on. Rather just roll with a cheaper option. Young, Willingham, or a guy like Cuddyer can all produce what Butler will and all be cheaper. Go big or just go cheap. Butler is a signing the Orioles that lost for 14 straight years would make.

[weams]

Yeah. I just don't see Butler as an upgrade worth spending on. Rather just roll with a cheaper option. Young, Willingham, or a guy like Cuddyer can all produce what Butler will and all be cheaper. Go big or just go cheap. Butler is a signing the Orioles that lost for 14 straight years would make.

Heck. Steve Pearce is a much better Butler. Get a real outfielder and DH Steve. Against Lefties. Because that is all Butler is good for.

[backwardsk]

Heck. Steve Pearce is a much better Butler. Get a real outfielder and DH Steve. Against Lefties. Because that is all Butler is good for.

I hear ya, but Pearce is my left fielder against lefties.

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[Bahama O's Fan]

If these are the ONLY two options, then I take Cruz

1. He can play the field, giving us more options. I seriously think Weiters is going to see some time at DH this season, but you can't do that and put Butler in the field. With Cruz you can.

2. Butler is coming off a bad year and Cruz's production was great this past year.

3. We underpaid for Cruz this year, so giving him a few million extra than we normally would spend would kinda be like a bonus.

[weams]

I hear ya, but Pearce is my left fielder against lefties.

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Put a real outfielder out there.

[weams]

If these are the ONLY two options' date=' then I take Cruz

1. He can play the field, giving us more options. I seriously think Weiters is going to see some time at DH this season, but you can't do that and put Butler in the field. With Cruz you can.

2. Butler is coming off a bad year and Cruz's production was great this past year.

3. We underpaid for Cruz this year, so giving him a few million extra than we normally would spend would kinda be like a bonus.[/quote']

14 a year for three years is Ortiz money.

[Babypowder]

Put a real outfielder out there.

Pearce was more than capable in the outfield, and the metrics agree.

[DrungoHazewood]

I guess I'm not too down on a 1/8 kind of deal for Butler, I like his discipline but am kind of wary of his disappearing power. And I've repeated often that I have no use for an expensive, multi-year deal for Cruz. I doubt Buck wants a regular DH like Butler. Can I have an option C? How about an odd couple platoon of Aoki/Delmon?

[DrungoHazewood]

If these are the ONLY two options' date=' then I take Cruz[/quote']

They're not.

1. He can play the field, giving us more options. I seriously think Weiters is going to see some time at DH this season, but you can't do that and put Butler in the field. With Cruz you can.

Well, he can stand in left field and catch almost everything that's hit within 12 feet of him.

2. Butler is coming off a bad year and Cruz's production was great this past year.

Which tells me they're fairly likely to be heading in opposite directions next year.

3. We underpaid for Cruz this year, so giving him a few million extra than we normally would spend would kinda be like a bonus.

No, that's getting ahead by being efficient and making up for it by lighting your cigars with $100 bills.

[Bahama O's Fan]

They're not.

Well, he can stand in left field and catch almost everything that's hit within 12 feet of him.

Which tells me they're fairly likely to be heading in opposite directions next year.

No, that's getting ahead by being efficient and making up for it by lighting your cigars with $100 bills.

Sorry, I only saw two options on the poll. I guess I missed the other one. Seriously, I don't like either one, but if they are the only two, then that's what I would choose. If there are no other choices, this is what I go with. Cruz IS better defensively than Butler. Cruz did have a better season, so recent trends show him going up and Butler going down. And it's not my money, so give it Cruz, rather than Butler.

[AlbionHero]

http://www.si.com/mlb/2014/11/03/reiter-50-free-agent-rankings-max-scherzer-jon-lester-james-shields

Butler has a .931 OPS at Camden Yards, where a lot of people like to hit, and he would represent a good bet to replace the likely loss of Nelson Cruz in the league's most powerful lineup.

[weams]

Pearce was more than capable in the outfield, and the metrics agree.

Steve Pearce is not a better than average outfielder.

[better]

As much as I love Cruz, I think we need to go low risk here and cash in on that pick.

[Bahama O's Fan]

http://www.si.com/mlb/2014/11/03/reiter-50-free-agent-rankings-max-scherzer-jon-lester-james-shields

Just curious, what his is OPS there in the last two years. He seems to be on a decline recently

[MurphDogg]

Niether are Nick Markakis or Adam Jones.

They were last season. Among centerfielders with 800 innings played Jones was 5th of 20 in UZR/150. Among rightfielder with 800 innings played Markakis was 5 of 19 in UZR/150.