UMD vs Miami!

[EddieO's21]

i can't even begin to describe how upsetting it is to see them play like this...and the worst part is, you know Miami is going to come out and use every bit of the 35 seconds they have on every time down the floor. UMD might be down too much for this kind of game

[BaltBird 24]

Gotta think that with the way they've been playing these past few weeks that they can come out and still do something, but if they play the first 5 minutes of the 2nd half the way they played the first half I'll say chances are going to be quite slim. Hopefully Gary chews them a new one during halftime.

[Mackus]

So when Dwayne Wade got injured on a reach in, should the other guy have been suspended?

right, because a reach in foul is exactly the same thing as an intentionally hard foul

I'm not commenting at all on the Graham foul, I'm listening to the game not watching, just saying that if you foul somebody hard intentionally, and they get hurt, you deserve the suspension. Even if the same exact foul with no injury to the player would not deserve a suspension.

[ccbird]

And why do we seem to bench Mike Jones so frequently? Was he playing shoddy defense again?

There was no reason why Jones should have ever stepped off the floor. He was the only one putting the ball in the basket. Then Gary has the nerve to keep him on the bench for Brown when they go to a zone. As badly as this team is playing Gary is coaching just as bad. Team isn't ready to play, don't know how to beat a zone, and isn't putting the right players on the court to beat the zone.

[Lucky Jim]

You are right but if Graham hits the game winning shot in this game, many of you will be pissed he is still playing, when he clearly shouldn't be(at least if you think Henderson shouldn't be playing)

I doubt that's true - and it's not really much of a connection to the game at hand. It wasn't a similar play. It wasn't a similar situation. It wasn't a similar result.

That's all I'll say about that. Now, back to the game: can someone explain why Jones spends such long periods of time on the bench when it's painfully obvious that we really only score when he's IN the game?

Now, this isn't two years ago - so the line of argument that he "plays terrible defense" isn't quite right. And, further, Vasquez and Strawberry were playing horrific defense, themself. It makes no sense. We can score in bunches when he extends the defense. When, instead, we have Vasquez and Strawberry as our only perimeter threat, well...we're never going to get ANYTHING going on the low blocks.

[beaner]

I doubt that's true - and it's not really much of a connection to the game at hand. It wasn't a similar play. It wasn't a similar situation. It wasn't a similar result.

That's all I'll say about that. Now, back to the game: can someone explain why Jones spends such long periods of time on the bench when it's painfully obvious that we really only score when he's IN the game?

Now, this isn't two years ago - so the line of argument that he "plays terrible defense" isn't quite right. And, further, Vasquez and Strawberry were playing horrific defense, themself. It makes no sense. We can score in bunches when he extends the defense. When, instead, we have Vasquez and Strawberry as our only perimeter threat, well...we're never going to get ANYTHING going on the low blocks.

For the record, it was a fast break, and while a hard foul, it was clearly Graham going for the block while using his body.. It's the same play you see all the time. Ibekwe hit the floor hard and nothing came of it at all. It was a hard foul but nothing dirty at all. No flying elbows or anything...Completely different from Sunday. A regular hard foul in a game, it would never even have come up had it not been for this past Sunday.

[square634]

right, because a reach in foul is exactly the same thing as an intentionally hard foul

I'm not commenting at all on the Graham foul, I'm listening to the game not watching, just saying that if you foul somebody hard intentionally, and they get hurt, you deserve the suspension. Even if the same exact foul with no injury to the player would not deserve a suspension.

I know I'm going to be yelled at for discussing this, but....

That's entirely the point. A reckless foul is a reckless foul. If a guy lands wrong and ends up slightly bloody, it shouldn't make a damned dfference in the officiating. For the same reason, regular fouls should be officiated consistently, regardless of the players' reactions.

Obviously, that's not what happens, which just makes me more angry every time I see a soccer player draw a red card, go out on a stretcher, and then come back 2 minutes later.

In the NBA, Kobe got the same suspension when his elbow hurt Ginobli as he did when it didn't hurt anyone. That's how officiating for hard fouls should work.

Now, you can still debate whether or not what happened was a reckless foul in the first place. In my opinion, he wasn't even close to the ball and just hit Ebekwe when he was running full speed.

[EddieO's21]

Look guys, please, let's just start discussing the game, not Kobe, Wade, NBA, UNC vs Duke, Hansbourogh, McRoberts, just UMD, it really is becoming old

[Lucky Jim]

There was no reason why Jones should have ever stepped off the floor. He was the only one putting the ball in the basket. Then Gary has the nerve to keep him on the bench for Brown when they go to a zone. As badly as this team is playing Gary is coaching just as bad. Team isn't ready to play, don't know how to beat a zone, and isn't putting the right players on the court to beat the zone.

Just as I figured. Jones destroys zones. And there he was, idling away on the bench. But at least Dave Neal and Parrish Brown got minutes. Our offense ONLY works when Jones is a threat. But apparently Gary thinks he can win on defense and intensity alone.

This isn't a knock on the job he's done this year, btw. I just hope his theory is that as long as we're within striking distance we're fine.

Free-throw shooting.

Rebounding.

Defense.

Shooting.

Turnovers.

All below par this game. Guess Gist's PS2/XBOX/whatever WAS a lucky charm.

[rolliefingers]

So help me God, if I see the words "Henderson" and "flagrant" in the same sentence on this thread again...

[Ruzious]

I know I'm going to be yelled at for discussing this, but....

That's entirely the point. A reckless foul is a reckless foul. If a guy lands wrong and ends up slightly bloody, it shouldn't make a damned dfference in the officiating. For the same reason, regular fouls should be officiated consistently, regardless of the players' reactions.

If you shoot someone in the chest, and he doesn't die, are you going to be charged with murder?

If you shoot someone in the chest, and he does die, are you going to be charged with murder?

[Lucky Jim]

So help me God, if I see the words "Henderson" and "flagrant" in the same sentence on this thread again...

...I'll lock this thread myself.

[rolliefingers]

All below par this game. Guess Gist's PS2/XBOX/whatever WAS a lucky charm.

Man, I'm not one for superstitions, but...

[EddieO's21]

well they just changed shoes, hopefully that will help

[rolliefingers]

Apparently MD changed their shoes at halftime...guess it couldn't hurt.