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Norris can't go to the DL if he's not injured. But he can go to the bullpen and work in long relief until he shows improved command.

Let's challenge Gausman by putting him in the rotation and see what he does--he can't be worse than Bud Norris has been. If Gausman flops, send him to Norfolk and give Mike Wright or Tyler Wilson a try.

Releasing Bud would be a panic move, but I don't think moving him to the bullpen is a panic move at this point. He was terrible in spring training as well. Letting him make more starts while his command is this bad is just throwing away ballgames.

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Norris can't go to the DL if he's not injured. But he can go to the bullpen and work in long relief until he shows improved command.

Let's challenge Gausman by putting him in the rotation and see what he does--he can't be worse than Bud Norris has been. If Gausman flops, send him to Norfolk and give Mike Wright or Tyler Wilson a try.

Releasing Bud would be a panic move, but I don't think moving him to the bullpen is a panic move at this point. He was terrible in spring training as well. Letting him make more starts while his command is this bad is just throwing away ballgames.

Good post. I think it would also be helpful to have a legit long man in the bullpen. Whether or not KG moves to the rotation, Buck seems to want to use him in the pen more like Miller last year, as a 1+ inning bridge guy in close games. Garcia can be used in blowouts but only for an inning or two at a time. We really don't have a TJ type who can come in and pitch 3-4 innings when our starter gets shelled. TJ pitched 2.1+ innings seven times last year (plus Ubaldo did it once). Bud could play that role for a while til he gets straight.

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Norris can't go to the DL if he's not injured. But he can go to the bullpen and work in long relief until he shows improved command.

Let's challenge Gausman by putting him in the rotation and see what he does--he can't be worse than Bud Norris has been. If Gausman flops, send him to Norfolk and give Mike Wright or Tyler Wilson a try.

Releasing Bud would be a panic move, but I don't think moving him to the bullpen is a panic move at this point. He was terrible in spring training as well. Letting him make more starts while his command is this bad is just throwing away ballgames.

Gausman hasn't shown anything so far that he would be helpful in the rotation right now. Give me Mike Wright on Sunday for 500 Trabek.

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I think Bud would be more valuable in the pen but don't see the world ending if he gets another start or two - after that, I may be keeping my eye on the sky waiting for it to fall... Gausman seems all out of whack.. what exactly has happened??

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He's been terrible but it's too soon to pull the plug on him. He'll get a few more starts at least.

I think so too. I did not think he was awful in his start against the Yankees. At that point I was thinking he was making some progress. Obviously, yesterday was a major setback. Another start like that next time out and I think they'd pull him from the rotation, but if he can manage to have at least a mediocre game (like the one vs. NY) I think he'll get a bit longer.

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FYI.....Norris started the 2014 season 0-2, so I'm not ready to panic or throw him in the BP....... or on the scrap heap. The difference is that despite the 0-2 record last year, he definitely was pitching better than he has in his first two games this season.

Bud was roughed in Spring Training this year and it's carrying over into the season. I'd give Gausman the ball next time. I'm hoping to see KG next Saturday as I'm flying up to see them vs the Rays.

I'd like to see Gausman get moved out of the bullpen. Let the guy with a 95+ fastball actually start a game. They have too short of a leash on him. Let the guy pitch a few games in a row.

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Good post. I think it would also be helpful to have a legit long man in the bullpen. Whether or not KG moves to the rotation, Buck seems to want to use him in the pen more like Miller last year, as a 1+ inning bridge guy in close games. Garcia can be used in blowouts but only for an inning or two at a time. We really don't have a TJ type who can come in and pitch 3-4 innings when our starter gets shelled. TJ pitched 2.1+ innings seven times last year (plus Ubaldo did it once). Bud could play that role for a while til he gets straight.

We're in a dogfight for 162 games and carrying dead weight, errr...I mean Rule V players is hard enough, but A-ball pitchers in the pen? Really Dan? You know who would make a good replacement for TJ McFarland on this team? TJ McFarland! Who coincidentally, we have already "paid" Rule V dues on and now is being under-utilized...it's like Mac is being double Rule Fived. OK, I think I hurt my head there...

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