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blueberryale77 Hangout Veteran Council

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You don't know what you are talking about Gallegher is not blocked he is 22 year old prospect.Let AM wait you say if this teams needs this or that team needs that. what if Roberts gets hurt then what.Why should teams give into anything AM wants its called try to make a fair deal thats all.Let him take a chance and wait until the deadline just like the Twins did with Santana by not taking a better Yankee deal or Red Sox deal they ended up with a preety weak Mets deal by waiting.

Would you please stop intentionally disrespecting the rules or our board with your grammar and punctuation? It's becoming obvious that you're doing it just to annoy the natives. Also when you are speaking directly to someone, it helps to quote the post you're responding to.

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Sorry but from everything I have read, Patterson is subpar at 2B. Most sites say he will be an outfielder. My idea with Pie is that you would then have 3 young fast CF types Pie or later a Tyler Colvin, would be worth moving Scott out of left. Patterson most likely not. Then you trade a young pitcher or OF for a second baseman. Defense will take priority on the new Orioles, especially up the middle. Patterson does not deliver that.

So who plays SS in your scenario?

We trade a young arm for a 2B down the line but what about now?

Will we have 1.5 seasons with Fahey and LH at 2b and SS?

Yeah Patterson's defense is a little off but he has time to improve. What he does have is speed and the ability to replace Roberts in the lead off spot.

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Gallagher is a BA top 100 prospect. There's no need to knock him like this.

How did I knock him. I said he is blocked right now on the Cubs. How is that a knock? I just want to see a tools outfielder (Pie or Colvin) or a special type arm like Ceda. I do not dislike Gallagher, I just think Roberts deserves a top shelf prospect in return, and no disrespect to anyone I am not sure Gallagher is that guy.

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Would you please stop intentionally disrespecting the rules or our board with your grammar and punctuation? It's becoming obvious that you're doing it just to annoy the natives. Also when you are speaking directly to someone, it helps to quote the post you're responding to.

There is a difference with Santana than Roberts. Roberts is signed through 2009. There is time. Plus who decides what is fair. Hendry and the Cub fans???

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Would you please stop intentionally disrespecting the rules or our board with your grammar and punctuation? It's becoming obvious that you're doing it just to annoy the natives. Also when you are speaking directly to someone, it helps to quote the post you're responding to.
I figured it out I appogize if I offended anyone.
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So who plays SS in your scenario?

We trade a young arm for a 2B down the line but what about now?

Will we have 1.5 seasons with Fahey and LH at 2b and SS?

Yeah Patterson's defense is a little off but he has time to improve. What he does have is speed and the ability to replace Roberts in the lead off spot.

In my oppinion a fair deal would be Cedeno, Gallagher, Colvin, or Pie or Ceda, plus a fourth. That would leave Cedeno who might not be the answer at SS and then deal for a second baseman as soon as possible. You could get Uribe and play him at SS and let Cedeno play 2B. Or Let LH play SS and Cedeno at 2B. It does not matter who plays where this year. This year is not going to be pretty. It matters in 2010.

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Obviously he has to be getting anxious for an answer one way or the other. I don't care how many million dollars he makes, it can't be comfortable playing for a team that acts like you're no longer a part of it but won't move forward with trading you, especially after all he's done for this team and this city off the field.

Dude, come on already. He's a professional and this is a business. If he's getting his panties in a bunch over being on the trade block, then he's not a very focused ballplayer (and I don't think he is worrying about it).

Also, that's a fair deal and I would do it.

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In my oppinion a fair deal would be Cedeno, Gallagher, Colvin, or Pie or Ceda, plus a fourth. That would leave Cedeno who might not be the answer at SS and then deal for a second baseman as soon as possible. You could get Uribe and play him at SS and let Cedeno play 2B. Or Let LH play SS and Cedeno at 2B. It does not matter who plays where this year. This year is not going to be pretty. It matters in 2010.
I am just wondering why would you guys want Colvin instead of Veal.Veal struggled last year because he lost his parents.I just think your outfield is preety set.
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I am just wondering why would you guys want Colvin instead of Veal.Veal struggled last year because he lost his parents.I just think your outfield is preety set.

We have stockpiled pitchers, I would like another young OF. Colvin would not start the year in the majors anyway.

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