Why should Angelos be leery of long term contracts, or expensive short term ones?

[Ori-Al]

After all, so many of the ones to which he has agreed have worked out so well. Albert Belle, Brian Roberts, Ubaldo so far, Hardy's current extension. I'm sure I'm forgetting someone.

Assuming Peter said after this season, "The vault is open to try to sign our guys," of the four current big free agents (Davis, Chen, Wieters, O'Day), would any of them be worth the offers they are likely to get? We know fans are going to be angry if none are re-signed (anger which would be somewhat assuaged if the organization had high quality players in the minors to replace them (the lack of same is not the responsibility of Angelos.)

[VTech]

Brain Roberts was always injured and didn't play much the last couple years of his contract. Ubaldo wasn't even on the playoff roster last year. JJ is on the DL and hasn't been too impressive at the plate this year.

[sportsfan8703]

We extended O'day a few years ago, that worked out so well people forget that it even happened. Same thing with Hardy. That was extension number 2 he was given. What about the Jones extension? One of the best contracts in baseball.

So there's two extensions that were so good you forgot they existed. Plus the Jones extension. Back to the drawing board for you.

[25 Nuggets]

We extended O'day a few years ago, that worked out so well people forget that it even happened. Same thing with Hardy. That was extension number 2 he was given. What about the Jones extension? One of the best contracts in baseball.

So there's two extensions that were so good you forgot they existed. Plus the Jones extension. Back to the drawing board for you.

Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't. You both cited examples one way and the other. But you'll never compete without investing in something. Even if you go the Astros' route and stink it up for a couple years, you're investing in your farm system.

[weams]

Assuming Peter said after this season, "The vault is open"

I thought it had been determined that the vault was empty though?

[25 Nuggets]

I thought it had been determined that the vault was empty though?

[sportsfan8703]

The O's Vault or the PA's personal Duck Tales vault?

[HokieOs]

After all, so many of the ones to which he has agreed have worked out so well. Albert Belle, Brian Roberts, Ubaldo so far, Hardy's current extension. I'm sure I'm forgetting someone.

Assuming Peter said after this season, "The vault is open to try to sign our guys," of the four current big free agents (Davis, Chen, Wieters, O'Day), would any of them be worth the offers they are likely to get? We know fans are going to be angry if none are re-signed (anger which would be somewhat assuaged if the organization had high quality players in the minors to replace them (the lack of same is not the responsibility of Angelos.)

IMO, only Chen and Davis have a prayer of being remotely near the offers they're going to get. O'Day is a reliever and Wieters is a catcher approaching 30 who is only an average hitter. Chen will be a solid #2 or #3 type pitcher for someone (likely a large market team). Davis provides power to the lineup and his BA is even improving. In order, I'd want Chen, then Davis, and then O'Day. Frankly, Joseph isn't a very big dropoff from Wieters at all, but provides us the option to spend money elsewhere. I really hope we get a backup catcher though because the thought of Clevenger behind the plate scares me a little.

[MDtransplant757]

IMO, only Chen and Davis have a prayer of being remotely near the offers they're going to get. O'Day is a reliever and Wieters is a catcher approaching 30 who is only an average hitter. Chen will be a solid #2 or #3 type pitcher for someone (likely a large market team). Davis provides power to the lineup and his BA is even improving. In order, I'd want Chen, then Davis, and then O'Day. Frankly, Joseph isn't a very big dropoff from Wieters at all, but provides us the option to spend money elsewhere. I really hope we get a backup catcher though because the thought of Clevenger behind the plate scares me a little.

I have a good feeling Chen will stay, Davis I couldn't tell you, and I think Darren might stay vouluntarily