Jonathan Schoop could be headed for Stardom

[DrungoHazewood]

On billjamesonline.com there is a three-part study on growth and sustainability of players (subscriber only), where he puts together an index of growth based on several factors early in a player's career. A lot of details, but the quick summary is a player who is a young, fast, switch hitter who hits relatively poorly early on ends up with the highest growth index, and an older, slow RH player with good hitting numbers as a rookie ends up with a low growth index.

In any case, the Schoop-relevant part is here:

...there is no evidence that a low walk total is predictive of development problems, and in fact the study seems persuasive in that it is not.

[Redskins Rick]

I'd say he got all of that ball tonight.

I thought for a moment, it had a chance to go over the monster.

[BohKnowsBmore]

I thought for a moment, it had a chance to go over the monster.

Initial measurement/estimate said 450' on the broadcast.

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[Redskins Rick]

Initial measurement/estimate said 450' on the broadcast.

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Not what one could call a cheap HR.

[Tony-OH]

On billjamesonline.com there is a three-part study on growth and sustainability of players (subscriber only), where he puts together an index of growth based on several factors early in a player's career. A lot of details, but the quick summary is a player who is a young, fast, switch hitter who hits relatively poorly early on ends up with the highest growth index, and an older, slow RH player with good hitting numbers as a rookie ends up with a low growth index.

In any case, the Schoop-relevant part is here:

That study must only consider major league numbers. Pretty interesting though.

[QBsILLEST1]

That study must only consider major league numbers. Pretty interesting though.

Cant hid behind a flaw in the ability to make contact if you always swing? Very interesting tidbit nonetheless....

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[srock]

On billjamesonline.com there is a three-part study on growth and sustainability of players (subscriber only), where he puts together an index of growth based on several factors early in a player's career. A lot of details, but the quick summary is a player who is a young, fast, switch hitter who hits relatively poorly early on ends up with the highest growth index, and an older, slow RH player with good hitting numbers as a rookie ends up with a low growth index.

In any case, the Schoop-relevant part is here:

Big strong athlete, quick hands, with plus defense is always a good bet. Plate discipline can be learned easier than most things.

Honestly, if you get 20+ dingers and plus defense at 2B anything else is gravy. I'm hoping we get more from Schoop as he matures, but for what he is payed the kid is a great value right now.

[DrungoHazewood]

Cant hid behind a flaw in the ability to make contact if you always swing? Very interesting tidbit nonetheless...

I'd speculate that it has to do with room for improvement. If you're a 22-year-old who already has power and walks a lot you're probably not going to move on from there to otherworldly power and Ruthian walk rates. But if you have obvious skills but a 5% walk rate that's somewhere that you can reasonably improve.

[Tryptamine]

Big strong athlete, quick hands, with plus defense is always a good bet. Plate discipline can be learned easier than most things.

Honestly, if you get 20+ dingers and plus defense at 2B anything else is gravy. I'm hoping we get more from Schoop as he matures, but for what he is payed the kid is a great value right now.

-.5UZR this year with 0DRS, so I'd call him a neutral defender, certainly not plus.

[Redskins Rick]

-.5UZR this year with 0DRS, so I'd call him a neutral defender, certainly not plus.

The kid has very good range, a good arm, and turns a fantastic double play.

He sure passes the eye test.

What was his past UZR and Career UZR?

[DrungoHazewood]

The kid has very good range, a good arm, and turns a fantastic double play.

He sure passes the eye test.

What was his past UZR and Career UZR?

I'm not convinced he has great range for a second baseman. He was a plus defender in 2014, but a few runs below average since then. He's not a typical second baseman, he profiles much more like a third baseman.

[Redskins Rick]

I'm not convinced he has great range for a second baseman. He was a plus defender in 2014, but a few runs below average since then. He's not a typical second baseman, he profiles much more like a third baseman.

He gets back pretty deep into OF territory on Popups and Shallow Flies.

I think more than one player had a down year in 2015.

[Tryptamine]

The kid has very good range, a good arm, and turns a fantastic double play.

He sure passes the eye test.

What was his past UZR and Career UZR?

As was said, he was good in 2014. 5.8UZR and 10DRS over 1010 2/3 innings. However since then he's been neutral or negative

2015: -5.0UZR -3DRS over 721 innings

2016: -0.5UZR 0DRS over 559 innings

Range seems to be his biggest issue.

[DrungoHazewood]

He gets back pretty deep into OF territory on Popups and Shallow Flies.

By Fangraphs numbers he's 15th of 19 qualifying 2B in range rating since 2014. #1 in double plays. A tick above average in not making errors.

[Frobby]

Schoop is basically playing at the same level as last year, which is very good, but I'm hoping he can take it up a notch at some point. Still only at 1057 career PA, and they usually say 1500 is the magic number.