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Odor avoided the malicious contact by not finishing the double play. Contact IS allowed in baseball. Malicious contact is NOT. I umpire youth baseball through JuCo if you really want to get in there and get messy with the rule book.
IIRC they ruled the slide illegal and the DP was completed, right?
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IIRC they ruled the slide illegal and the DP was completed, right?

No, Odor's throw missed first base by quite a bit and hit the wall behind, but before the ball could be picked up again, everyone was running for second base due to the altercation. The umpire ultimately awarded the

Rangers with the inning ending double play due to the illegal slide.

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No. They incorrectly (IMO) called it a clean slide and let it stand.
That changed two batters later, when Justin Smoak hit a grounder to third baseman Adrian Beltre, who tried to get a forceout at second base. Bautista came into the base with a hard slide that was ruled a violation of MLB's new slide rule and made contact with second baseman Rougned Odor's leg. And even though Odor's throw sailed wide of first, the Rangers were awarded an inning-ending double play because of Bautista's illegal slide.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/178354174/bautista-odor-spark-blue-jays-rangers-fracas

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No, Odor's throw missed first base by quite a bit and hit the wall behind, but before the ball could be picked up again, everyone was running for second base due to the altercation. The umpire ultimately awarded the

Rangers with the inning ending double play due to the illegal slide.

Confusing answer. Seems like, if the last sentence is correct, the first word should be "Yes."

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A few sports players have been charged with assault for on-field/on-ice hits over the years. There have been some hockey cases, some high school football cases (the most well-known involving referees), etc. I think an Oakland Raider was charge with assault for punching another player on the practice field back in the day. It's basically up to the local prosecutor and in most if not all jurisdictions the "victim" would have to press charges/cooperate with the prosecution. I seriously doubt Bautista would want Odor to be prosecuted. And I'm 100000% sure MLB would not want that to happen and would encourage it (behind the scenes) not to happen.

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Confusing answer. Seems like, if the last sentence is correct, the first word should be "Yes."

Maybe so. I guess I didn't consider the DP to be "completed" more than it was awarded due to the slide. Completed, to me, would mean Odor's throw made it to first in time. Didn't mean to be confusing, it's just how I

took his wording.

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Todd Bertuzzi was charged with assault. I am sure if Jose pressed charges the DA would have think about prosecuting. The reason more atheletes aren't charged is because they get special treatment. Why didn't Ray Rice serve time. Why did Ray Lewis not serve time?

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Even if all this true, you cannot punch people in the face. I opened saying sometimes somebody may deserve a punch, but the bottom line is that is an assault. You just can't punch people, you can't.

You can just before you think you are about to get hit. Bautista went after Odor with his left first, then brings his right arm back, looks like hes trying to make a fist to punch him but Odor was just a little to fast and got him first.

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Any lawyers here. Baseball players are big on saying this is my workplace, this is my job. LOL, they play baseball, but I digress.

Anyways if I go to work tomorrow and decide to punch a coworker not only will I get fired I'll probably go to jail. That's what happens in real life. As much as the movies make it seem cool to punch the asshole who's annoying you or others you cannot punch people in the face and not get arrested.

If you want to look at it from a legal standpoint you could argue that Odor was acting in self defense. like Brandon McCarthy tweeted, was Bautista winding up to tickle him? No he was about to hit him. Odor saw that and smacked the crap out him. Should Odor have done it? No but I can see why he did, and it was glorious that he did.

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You can just before you think you are about to get hit. Bautista went after Odor with his left first, then brings his right arm back, looks like hes trying to make a fist to punch him but Odor was just a little to fast and got him first.

Exactly! This is being characterized as if Odor, just out of the blue, punched an innocent bystander.

Bautista tries to do bodily harm with slide then puffs his chest right after the slide, then there's a shove by Odor, then Bautista comes in towards Odor ready to throw the haymaker. Odor beat him to it. End of story!

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Any lawyers here. Baseball players are big on saying this is my workplace, this is my job. LOL, they play baseball, but I digress.

Anyways if I go to work tomorrow and decide to punch a coworker not only will I get fired I'll probably go to jail. That's what happens in real life. As much as the movies make it seem cool to punch the asshole who's annoying you or others you cannot punch people in the face and not get arrested.

I imagine he will be fined and a suspension. He won't get away with it.

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