Matt Wieters

[evenparthrough9]

He was once one of the best defensive catchers in the game. He's become a liability now. Not worth $14 million. Don't see him here next year unless he takes a significant pay cut.

[eddie83]

I am furious over Wieters right now. He sits for 6 games, after he comes back struggles on defense and right away we hear about his foot still bothering him. Ok well then why on the world wasn't he put on the DL? I guess giving him another 8-9 days to get healthy just makes too much sense. Instead lets have him aggravate it instead. Brilliant.

[evenparthrough9]

I am furious over Wieters right now. He sits for 6 games, after he comes back struggles on defense and right away we hear about his foot still bothering him. Ok well then why on the world wasn't he put on the DL? I guess giving him another 8-9 days to get healthy just makes too much sense. Instead lets have him aggravate it instead. Brilliant.

Yeah. Pena could fill in. At least he'll block balls.

[Aristotelian]

I am furious over Wieters right now. He sits for 6 games, after he comes back struggles on defense and right away we hear about his foot still bothering him. Ok well then why on the world wasn't he put on the DL? I guess giving him another 8-9 days to get healthy just makes too much sense. Instead lets have him aggravate it instead. Brilliant.

It's the Bud Norris phenomenon. Nobody wants to go on the DL in their walk year. Especially after taking a QO.

[eddie83]

Yeah. Pena could fill in. At least he'll block balls.

The more I think about it the more it ticks me off. I mean was basically one more week off going to kill Matt or the team?

Instead we will be hearing about how his foot is still hurting him for lord knows how long. The club had no reason to push Matt, none.

[eddie83]

It's the Bud Norris phenomenon. Nobody wants to go on the DL in their walk year. Especially after taking a QO.

8 games total? He already sat for 6? He wouldn't have started more than 6 anyway.

[slakattack]

I am furious over Wieters right now. He sits for 6 games, after he comes back struggles on defense and right away we hear about his foot still bothering him. Ok well then why on the world wasn't he put on the DL? I guess giving him another 8-9 days to get healthy just makes too much sense. Instead lets have him aggravate it instead. Brilliant.

Because in Buck's mind, an injured Wieters is still better than every other catcher in the organization, and he's better than every other catcher in the AL.

[eddie83]

Because in Buck's mind, an injured Wieters is not only better than every other catcher in the organization, he's better than every other catcher in the AL.

Then Buck is a fool. We are talking about 8 games. 8! Off day Monday.

[atomic]

Because Joseph has a .468 OPS. He might be the worst hitter in the American League.

[slakattack]

In tonight's presser, Buck immediately gets short/defensive when Gary makes any comment about Wieters not being 100%. I love Buck, but if he had to answer to NY, Chi, Bos press corps he would be taken to task for some of his stubborness that is disguised as loyalty.

[webbrick2010]

Watching Russel Martin steal strikes with his pitch framing and then watching Matt not even able to catch was a glaring contrast.

Looks like he won't even get the QO this year

[evenparthrough9]

Because in Buck's mind, an injured Wieters is still better than every other catcher in the organization, and he's better than every other catcher in the AL.

If Buck thinks that, he's dilusional.

[Crabcakes]

Watching Russel Martin steal strikes with his pitch framing and then watching Matt not even able to catch was a glaring contrast.

Looks like he won't even get the QO this year

Bingo w/ the framing comment. The only team dumb enough to give, & pay, Wieters a QO is the Orioles. He can no longer field anything low or outside. He backhands everything ... & his backhand is atrocious.

Give Joseph a chance to play regularly & he will hit better. He's the type of player that needs his 'reps' to get in his groove. CJ & Pena will only get better by next year ... Wieters (unfortunately; I like the guy) is diminishing returns.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

Wieters isn't worth risking a QO on unless he plays lights out the next two months.

Let Joseph and Pena catch next year until Sisco is ready. And as other posters pointed out, Wieter's pitch framing has never been good.

[atomic]

Bingo w/ the framing comment. The only team dumb enough to give, & pay, Wieters a QO is the Orioles. He can no longer field anything low or outside. He backhands everything ... & his backhand is atrocious.

Give Joseph a chance to play regularly & he will hit better. He's the type of player that needs his 'reps' to get in his groove. CJ & Pena will only get better by next year ... Wieters (unfortunately; I like the guy) is diminishing returns.

Joseph will be 31 years old next year. Do 31 year old players who have never hit before typically start hitting? Joseph couldn't even hit at Triple A. I think if he doesn't start hitting this year I would plan on a new back-up catcher for 2017. Pena only has an OPS around .600 at Norfolk. These guys are not starters.

This thread should be titled "Grasping at Straws"