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Redskins Rick Hangout Grand Counsel

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Pearce has 1 HR and 2 RBI over his last month

He is streaky and often injured

For all the talk of where Heim is on the depth chart, I keep hearing that he is the only guy

with the defensive chops to be guaranteed to be able to stay at C in the majors

I do not like the trade

I think if Roch reported that DD tried and was unable to trade Pearce and bring him back.

You probably would have come out and find something to fault the team on and why they didn't try stronger to bring him back.

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For everyone that's upset about losing Heim, I think Wieters is going to be here for the next few years with Joseph backing him up. I just don't see how we're going to be able to replace MW, and I don't think we'll have to.

Its not losing Heim actually, it just complaining to complain. DD could have traded Ubaldo to Tampa straight up for Pearce and Tampa picking up all the salary, and somebody would have complained about how Pearce is a backup COF/1st/2nd and not a SP.

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Pearce would have been a perfect platoon partner with Kim. He also would have been a great insurance policy in case Kim didn't work out. As an added bonus, there would have been no need for Nolan Reimold to be on the 25 man roster. The Orioles really mismanaged their roster in the off-season when you consider the tendering of Matusz, only signing one starting pitcher after losing your best starting pitcher to another team, not signing another left-handed bullpen arm, not re-signing Pearce, etc....

Pearce was horrible last year. I can't think of one poster that wanted him back. I guess you're the exception?

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Pearce was horrible last year. I can't think of one poster that wanted him back. I guess you're the exception?

I think a couple did but they were like TINSTAAPP in that their thinking was along the lines of "We get Pearce back it means no Reimold.". They seemed to care more about the absence of Reimold than the presence of Pearce.

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Pearce has 1 HR and 2 RBI over his last month

He is streaky and often injured

For all the talk of where Heim is on the depth chart, I keep hearing that he is the only guy

with the defensive chops to be guaranteed to be able to stay at C in the majors

I do not like the trade

The Orioles could trade Ubaldo Jimenez for Babe Ruth in his prime and you'd still find something to complain about it.

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I think a couple did but they were like TINSTAAPP in that their thinking was along the lines of "We get Pearce back it means no Reimold.". They seemed to care more about the absence of Reimold than the presence of Pearce.

Are we really all that sure that if we lost Reimold at this point that someone would scoop him up? He's got a lot of exposure at this level now, and he just hasn't been that good. And even if we did lose him, do we care THAT much? Wouldn't you rather get looks at Borbon or D Alvarez at this point anyway? Reimold is basically a Rule V guy at this point... EVERY YEAR.

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Are we really all that sure that if we lost Reimold at this point that someone would scoop him up? He's got a lot of exposure at this level now, and he just hasn't been that good. And even if we did lose him, do we care THAT much? Wouldn't you rather get looks at Borbon or D Alvarez at this point anyway? Reimold is basically a Rule V guy at this point... EVERY YEAR.

Buck had both up here, and since Reimold is still here, I suspect in Buck's mind, he would rather have Reimold over Borbon or Alvarez.

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For everyone that's upset about losing Heim, I think Wieters is going to be here for the next few years with Joseph backing him up. I just don't see how we're going to be able to replace MW, and I don't think we'll have to.

That may be true. His price is falling.

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"Thank you to everyone in the Orioles organization for the last 3 years. I met a lot of great people and friends along the way."

Jonah Heim

https://twitter.com/Jonah_heim6/status/760240411789123585

Very gracious.

Although, it might have been more entertaining if Heim had said something like this ........

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Az5gp87ROOs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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Pearce was horrible last year. I can't think of one poster that wanted him back. I guess you're the exception?

His peripherals last year weren't that much different from his 2014 season. The big difference was that he had a .322 BABIP in 2014 while only having a .232 BABIP last year. That's not suddenly turning into a bad player. That's having terrible luck.

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From Fangraphs:

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Jonah Heim, C, Tampa

KATOH: 2.9 WAR

KATOH+: 2.7 WAR

Heim?s .220/.303/.348 batting line at High-A doesn?t seem particularly compelling, but the 21-year-old has some things working in his favor. For one, he?s a catcher, where the bar for offense is comically low. Furthermore, his .241 BABIP suggests he?s run into some bad luck. His strikeout, walk and power numbers, on the other hand, have all been solid.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/projecting-the-prospects-traded-yesterday/

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