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Getting rid of Chris Davis


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50 minutes ago, birdwatcher55 said:

What's crazier is hanging onto these guys hoping one figures it out and the other is going to sign here long term. I'd be shopping both in a package to bring in controllable assets and free us from this albatross contract. 

If the team were to decide to trade Manny for fear of losing him, it'd be foolish to package him with a guy that'd devalue the return. Manny Machado would net the team a series of well-regarded prospects who were cost-controlled. There's no reason to turn him into half of a salary dump.

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3 hours ago, FlipTheBird said:

If the team were to decide to trade Manny for fear of losing him, it'd be foolish to package him with a guy that'd devalue the return. Manny Machado would net the team a series of well-regarded prospects who were cost-controlled. There's no reason to turn him into half of a salary dump.

Yeah, I've got no other way to put it other than dumb management to devalue a Manny trade like that.  Stupid.

Why is this even still a thread?

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On 5/31/2017 at 7:27 AM, webbrick2010 said:

How much would it take from another team for YOU to think that we should dump CD.

I figure on the open market he could get at most a 3/30 type deal

So if a team offered 30 million for Chris Davis would you take it, leaving the O's on the hook for 70 million?

How much would it take to dump CD and forget that the O's ever signed that disastrous contract.

 

Doesn't matter, Angelos never will.

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On 5/31/2017 at 8:27 AM, webbrick2010 said:

How much would it take from another team for YOU to think that we should dump CD.

I figure on the open market he could get at most a 3/30 type deal

So if a team offered 30 million for Chris Davis would you take it, leaving the O's on the hook for 70 million?

How much would it take to dump CD and forget that the O's ever signed that disastrous contract.

 

Hilarious.  The Orioles would not eat any of Ubaldo's contract, even now...when he has directly lost many games over the last year....and you think Potter is going to eat 70 million for his boy?   Ha, Ha.   Chris Davis will be an Oriole when that contract ends...unless there is a different owner. 

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We are stuck with the contract.  Even if we eat most of it, which is highly unlikely, the value of Davis when he can carry the team for 7-18 days is probably worth holding onto, especially if that means paying him around $100 million not to be here anymore, which isn't going to happen.  

Basically, I look at the Davis contract like this.  I think we gave it out to show Manny that we wanted to keep this core together, in the hopes he would re-sign.  If Manny is back to the Superstar edition next year and we make him an Oriole for life, then the Davis deal is worth it.  If Manny moves on, it was worth the shot but ultimately a move we didn't need to make. 

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2 minutes ago, ThomasTomasz said:

We are stuck with the contract.  Even if we eat most of it, which is highly unlikely, the value of Davis when he can carry the team for 7-18 days is probably worth holding onto, especially if that means paying him around $100 million not to be here anymore, which isn't going to happen.  

Basically, I look at the Davis contract like this.  I think we gave it out to show Manny that we wanted to keep this core together, in the hopes he would re-sign.  If Manny is back to the Superstar edition next year and we make him an Oriole for life, then the Davis deal is worth it.  If Manny moves on, it was worth the shot but ultimately a move we didn't need to make. 

Frankly I don't think Manny or players in general are that clueless. I doubt that most of the O's players would have made that deal and the smart ones knew that the Davis deal makes the O's less competitive for the next 5 years

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31 minutes ago, Frobby said:

He didn't exactly set the world on fire in his two rehab games.    Defensively, it will be good to have him back.   

Great a 161 million dollar defensive specialist first baseman.

Worst Oriole contract ever, one of the worst in baseball history, and what is the name of the GM who signed off on it. That alone will keep DD from ever getting another job after he thankfully leaves the O's

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9 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Great a 161 million dollar defensive specialist first baseman.

Worst Oriole contract ever, one of the worst in baseball history, and what is the name of the GM who signed off on it. That alone will keep DD from ever getting another job after he thankfully leaves the O's

I'm not a betting man.  But if I was, I would bet the bank on DD landing another front office job as soon as he leaves here.  Winning more games than any team in baseball over a five year period won't be overlooked despite his faults. 

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5 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

I'm not a betting man.  But if I was, I would bet the bank on DD landing another front office job as soon as he leaves here.  Winning more games than any team in baseball over a five year period won't be overlooked despite his faults. 

I'd take that bet...

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17 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Great a 161 million dollar defensive specialist first baseman.

Worst Oriole contract ever, one of the worst in baseball history, and what is the name of the GM who signed off on it. That alone will keep DD from ever getting another job after he thankfully leaves the O's

I think you're right that we will rue that contract, but it's too early to describe it as one of the worst in baseball history.    Depends how the next couple of years go.    Of course, if we're in a rebuild, then it really doesn't matter how he does, it's just a waste of money in that scenario.    

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26 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Great a 161 million dollar defensive specialist first baseman.

Worst Oriole contract ever, one of the worst in baseball history, and what is the name of the GM who signed off on it. That alone will keep DD from ever getting another job after he thankfully leaves the O's

So another owner won't hire a GM for doing exactly what his current owner told him to do?

If Duquette doesn't get a job, it's because he's Dan Duquette.  It was his personality that kept him out so long, not his skill as a GM.

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43 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

I'm not a betting man.  But if I was, I would bet the bank on DD landing another front office job as soon as he leaves here.  Winning more games than any team in baseball over a five year period won't be overlooked despite his faults. 

No doubt he will take the next step as well, like the Jays wanted him to do.  Within the parameters that ownership has put on this team, I don't see how people can find fault with how Duquette has operated.  Even with this contract, it was ownership who put more money in at the last minute, either realizing he wanted to show Manny he was committed to keeping the core together (I mentioned that in a previous post) or else he remembered what happened when Mussina left and he didn't raise the bar. 

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