What could you get for Brach?

[Lucky_13]

Everyone's talking about Britton but what could the return be for Brach? 

If we offer him to the Nats could you get something like OF Andrew Stevenson and Joe Ross?

That gives the Orioles a near MLB ready Outfielder who's a plus defender with  speed, gap power, and decent on base skills. Ross is a classic change of scenery guy. Orioles could plug him into the rotation this season and hope he figures it out. If not could be a so lid bullpen piece.

Just a thought and I could be overrating Brach. 

[Tryptamine]

I know Ross hasn't been great this year, but he was good last year and has upside. He also is under control for 5.5 more years versus 1.5 years.

[spiritof66]

17 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I know Ross hasn't been great this year, but he was good last year and has upside. He also is under control for 5.5 more years versus 1.5 years.

I try not to be too pessimistic about our inability to develop pitching prospects into productive starters, but Ross looks to me like the kind of pitcher -- impressive but hittable stuff, lots of talent but very inconsistent execution -- who will be most likely to realize his upside if he gets some guidance of the sort that doesn't seem to be provided much by the Orioles.

[sportsfan8703]

Brach's value is he's an All star level reliever that can close or pitch 1+ IP in a set up role.  He's shown that he can be that guy that can come in and get you out of a jam in the 7th and then pitch the 8th.  That is almost more valuable than your standard closer.  

He has 1.66 cheap years remaining at the moment.  

I think we could get a pretty good haul for him, but that depends on the market.  KC could flood the market if they decide to completely blow it up.  

[sportsfan8703]

I'd want Eric Fedde from the Nats.  #51 prospect in MLB.  Seems like that's been the going rate for a guy like Brach.  

[Lucky_13]

3 minutes ago, spiritof66 said:

I try not to be too pessimistic about our inability to develop pitching prospects into productive starters, but Ross looks to me like the kind of pitcher -- impressive but hittable stuff, lots of talent but very inconsistent execution -- who will be most likely to realize his upside if he gets some guidance of the sort that doesn't seem to be provided much by the Orioles.

I also have a lack of faith in the Orioles to develop pitchers. But if I was doing a rebuild I would stockpile as much young, promising pitching and hope for the best. 

[Lucky_13]

1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I'd want Eric Fedde from the Nats.  #51 prospect in MLB.  Seems like that's been the going rate for a guy like Brach.  

I'm not sure Brach would get you Fedde. Andrew Miller got the Yankees a #50ish and #80ish prospect so I think a guy like Britton could get you Fedde and Kieboom for sure if he comes back healthy and dominant. I'm not sure Brach is on that level but could still get some guys with solid upside. 

[sportsfan8703]

1 minute ago, Lucky_13 said:

I'm not sure Brach would get you Fedde. Andrew Miller got the Yankees a #50ish and #80ish prospect so I think a guy like Britton could get you Fedde and Kieboom for sure if he comes back healthy and dominant. I'm not sure Brach is on that level but could still get some guys with solid upside. 

Maybe.  I think the ideal situation for us would be to get a top 100 SP for Brach that is close to the majors.  

I haven't had time to see what teams need high end relievers and who is likely to be available.  If it's a seller's market that we could certainly get that.  We traded Ed Rod, who was top 70 at the time, for 2.5 months of Miller.  So it happens.  

[spiritof66]

3 minutes ago, Lucky_13 said:

I also have a lack of faith in the Orioles to develop pitchers. But if I was doing a rebuild I would stockpile as much young, promising pitching and hope for the best. 

I think of that approach -- which I understand, though our history with growing the arms makes me wonder about it -- as being implemented by acquiring guys who can be gotten cheaper because they're at an earlier stage of development than Ross, who's thrown 225 innings in MLB (though not necessarily younger than Ross, who's only 24). I think the Nats would place a pretty high value on Ross. 

 

[Lucky_13]

I see what you're saying. I think controllable pitching is what I should have said. Which is why Ross makes sense if the team wanted to get younger and retool(which I'd prefer)for a run in a year or two instead of blowing it up completely. He has had success at the majors and if the Orioles could fix him you'd have a young rotation led by Bundy, Ross, and Gausmen.  Also I'd try to get guys who are major league ready so the Orioles don't have to develop them entirely since it's something they have shown they are incapable of doing.

For the Nats, they are a solid bullpen away from a World Series so I think the team could get them to give up more then they would otherwise want to. 

[Ruzious]

I wouldn't target Ross - especially after watchin him lose focus against the Braves the other day.  He's not a kid anymore, and he's been injury-prone throughout his career.  As was mentioned, the Nats really need 2 guys in the pen, and combining Brach and Britton should get a really nice haul from the Nats.  I'd see if we could get Fedde, Kieboom AND Juan Soto.  We could also give them back one of our OFers (anyone other than Hays or Mullens).  

[POR]

1 hour ago, Ruzious said:

 I'd see if we could get Fedde, Kieboom AND Juan Soto.  We could also give them back one of our OFers (anyone other than Hays or Mullens).  

LOL

 

1 hour ago, Ruzious said:

As was mentioned, the Nats really need 2 guys in the pen, and combining Brach and Britton should get a really nice haul from the Nats.  I'd see if we could get Fedde, Kieboom AND Juan Soto.  We could also give them back one of our OFers (anyone other than Hays or Mullens).  

LOL

[Luke-OH]

They aren't going to trade for both Brach and Britton.  If Britton comes back and looks like the Britton from last year, Fedde and Kieboom is a good return.  

[FlipTheBird]

4 hours ago, Ruzious said:

I wouldn't target Ross - especially after watchin him lose focus against the Braves the other day.  He's not a kid anymore, and he's been injury-prone throughout his career.  As was mentioned, the Nats really need 2 guys in the pen, and combining Brach and Britton should get a really nice haul from the Nats.  I'd see if we could get Fedde, Kieboom AND Juan Soto.  We could also give them back one of our OFers (anyone other than Hays or Mullens).  

If Britton is healthy and you actually deal them both to the Nats, Victor Robles is in the deal or there's no deal.

[Ruzious]

21 hours ago, POR said:

LOL

 

LOL

You have 117 posts in 13 years and chose to use one of them to try to ridicule me - quoting the same comment twice.  That's special of you.