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46 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Shouldn’t a “generational” talent occasionally be the best player on the field? At least three Astro’s better than Manny

This is absolutely right. And he won't be the best shortstop on the field in NY either with the way he's playing. I think he's going to be disappointed in what he's offered in free agency.

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Has there been a bunch of balls that got past him where people say he has no range?

Both mistakes I have seen were the same type we always see from him. He didn’t stop a bad throw from Joseph going into CF last Saturday and he dropped the throw in from Santander yesterday. Neither one had anything to do with playing SS compared to 3B. 

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There's a reason players typically move from SS to 3B as they age and not the other way around. If the Orioles don't think they are a better team with Machado at SS they should move him back to 3B. They owe him nothing. It's not like he's going to give them a percentage of his contract when he signs with the highest bidder in the off season. 

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3 hours ago, webbrick2010 said:

Shouldn’t a “generational” talent occasionally be the best player on the field? At least three Astro’s better than Manny

When Bregman was in the minors I suggested we trade Manny straight up for him.  People on here overrate Manny so badly.  

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23 minutes ago, atomic said:

When Bregman was in the minors I suggested we trade Manny straight up for him.  People on here overrate Manny so badly.  

Let’s see how Manny does this year.    I don’t think most people overrate Manny.    I think they may overrate his trade value, considering he is only under control for a short time.

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1 hour ago, wildbillhiccup said:

There's a reason players typically move from SS to 3B as they age and not the other way around. If the Orioles don't think they are a better team with Machado at SS they should move him back to 3B. They owe him nothing. It's not like he's going to give them a percentage of his contract when he signs with the highest bidder in the off season. 

Exactly. They should have never made the move. It benefits the TEAM in no way at all. If he signed long-term it might be different. But the move simply made no sense. Now maybe, just maybe, Manny is a club house leader and Buck knows that so this is all about having a happy team leader and such. But I'm not seeing it...

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4 hours ago, webbrick2010 said:

Shouldn’t a “generational” talent occasionally be the best player on the field? At least three Astro’s better than Manny

Altuve - yes, Correa - maybe, Bregman - not there yet, and Springer - no, but I get the underlying sentiment of your point. 

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Willing to wait it out till the end of the year, but there was no way I was in favor of moving a platinum glove guy off of third base. My gut says at the end of this season he's above average at best at SS. JMHO I think Buck gave in because Manny wants to be there and he's earned the shot I guess? 

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Looking at his +/- from 2016 he is good straight on average to the left  -3 to the right. Good on FB. I think with more experience and positioning his range improves some but I doubt  he'll ever be much more than a +5 SS.

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5 minutes ago, elgordo said:

Looking at his +/- from 2016 he is good straight on average to the left  -3 to the right. Good on FB. I think with more experience and positioning his range improves some but I doubt  he'll ever be much more than a +5 SS.

Good news is he will NOT be in NY next year. No way they are going to spend a bunch of money on him when they have their own young guys coming up.

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