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7 hours ago, webbrick2010 said:

You mean signing a 32 yo middle reliever to a 4 year extension was flushing money down the toilet. Who could have seen that coming?

Certainly not the Yankees when they had Mariano Rivera pitch for so long. If any position in baseball could be effective through age 36, it'd be a relief pitcher, IMO.

Old position players can only be a DH because their speed and reaction times are too bad for fielding. Old starters either have to reinvent themselves like R.A. Dickey (which only a few ever do), get stem cell treatments like Fartolo Colon, or hit the gummies. Old relievers don't necessarily have to do any of that if they have a filthy pitch, and O'Day does.

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17 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Well he needs to avoid PRP injections. Those things cause TJ from what I can tell.  

Correlation doesn’t mean causation. PRP often proceeds TJS because players/teams are looking for a last ditch non-surgical option.

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42 minutes ago, allquixotic said:

Certainly not the Yankees when they had Mariano Rivera pitch for so long. If any position in baseball could be effective through age 36, it'd be a relief pitcher, IMO.

Old position players can only be a DH because their speed and reaction times are too bad for fielding. Old starters either have to reinvent themselves like R.A. Dickey (which only a few ever do), get stem cell treatments like Fartolo Colon, or hit the gummies. Old relievers don't necessarily have to do any of that if they have a filthy pitch, and O'Day does. 

O'day did

Fixed that for you. We are going to get about 50 very mediocre innings for a 36 million dollar contract

We haven't seen rock bottom until we see what kind of extension Brady gifts Jones with.

Next year if we were to actually put our best 25 players on the 25 man roster we would have more salary going to the DFA'ed players than the actual players. That's great management.

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