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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I already had a discussion today with someone that thinks that even if Buck wanted a player that turned out to be poor it's Dan's fault for not overriding Buck's judgement.

Do you also feel that way?

Well in most places the GM is the boss. Not so much in Baltimore it seems. 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

So if Buck went over Dan's head to ownership to get Davis that would fall on Buck right?

A lot of us think that is what happened.

I don't think the Orioles front office has the typical hierarchy of most teams. It doesn't seem like DD is Buck's boss. They're both in charge of their areas - with Angelos the boss.

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42 minutes ago, allquixotic said:

Every member of this forum, no matter how young, may die of old age before the Orioles get to the postseason again. That’s how bad it can be. Look at droughts from the Cubs and even Red Sox for evidence.

Hopefully, baseball has an epiphany before then. For the health of the game you can't let teams lose a whole generation of fans like the O's did with 15 straight years of losing. It might be sooner than we think too. Because I don't think the major drop in attendance is all to do with the weather. People just don't have the extra spending money that they had even a decade ago.

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2 hours ago, allquixotic said:

 

Every member of this forum, no matter how young, may die of old age before the Orioles get to the postseason again. That’s how bad it can be. Look at droughts from the Cubs and even Red Sox for evidence.

 

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The White Sox had a longer drought than did the Red Sox.

White Sox fans are not/were not as whiny and self-pitying as are/were Cubs fans and Red Sox fans. I've seen documentaries about the Red Sox and their fans, and they themselves (Red Sox fans) said as much about their fellow fans. They called them P.W.N.C.C.'ers ...... Provincial, whining, narcissistic, chronic complainers.

Hence, you didn't here about the White Sox' "cursed" franchise nearly as much as you did about the Red Sox and the Cubs.

 

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8 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I'll bet against that. Buck is finishing out the year unless Buck decides to walk away.  

They will have to fire him eventually.  This isn't an expansion team or a team that just did a rebuild.  You can't manage this badly and keep your job.   

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Just now, Aglets said:

I think Dan goes before Buck..........whether that's fair or not.   I know that's not how it's usually done, but I have to believe Buck has more pull in the FO right now.

Why would they fire DD now?  He wasn't one putting together team.   

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2 minutes ago, atomic said:

Why would they fire DD now?  He wasn't one putting together team.   

He's likely gone after this season anyway, and it would send a message to the more casual fans that what's going on this year is unacceptable.   Plus I'm not sure I fully buy that Duquette is nothing more than a puppet taking orders from Brady and Buck.

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2 minutes ago, Aglets said:

He's likely gone after this season anyway, and it would send a message to the more casual fans that what's going on this year is unacceptable.   Plus I'm not sure I fully buy that Duquette is nothing more than a puppet taking orders from Brady and Buck.

Roch mentioned Brady as being responsible for each player brought in after they signed.   Well except Rasmus which was a Buck guy.  Roch is the team shill so he wouldn't say this if it werent true.  Plus others in the press have said the same.   This team is Buck and Brady show.. 

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3 minutes ago, atomic said:

Roch mentioned Brady as being responsible for each player brought in after they signed.   Well except Rasmus which was a Buck guy.  Roch is the team shill so he wouldn't say this if it werent true.  Plus others in the press have said the same.   This team is Buck and Brady show.. 

Agreed that Brady has a lot of influence.  He's also super tight with the Angelos family which makes him more 'safe'...........so even if all of this is true then that would just mean they need a scapegoat......like someone whose contract is about to expire anyway.........

This is not complicated.  By most accounts Dan is already pretty marginalized in the warehouse........therefore it makes sense he'd be the first to go.

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