10 to trade to jumpstart rebuild

[ScGO's]

Before July 31st, I think there could be markets for the following 10 players.  Some will obviously bring more return than others, but if this team wants to be competitive (or competent) in the next five years, they need to consider making these moves now to maximize the value of the return.

 

1. Manny Machado - For obvious reasons.  Needs to be the creamiest of the return crop.

2. Jonathan Schoop - Hasn't heated up yet, but I'm still shopping him bc he has that extra year of control and he's a premium position.  If we sell on him this year, we might be able to get a return similar to the one we can get for Machado.

3. Kevin Gausman - This is the best he has looked in years, and if he can keep it up for another month, we need to sell high.  The rest of the league knows he has stuff.  Let someone think he's figured it out, and maybe he does, but even if he becomes an ace, he wouldn't have been around the next time we're good anyway.

4. Michael Givens - I used to debate against trading him, thinking he was the closer of the future, but after watching how star relievers have been moved, shopped, and signed around the league the last few seasons, I'm sold on selling high and early on relievers that are destined for high arbitration settlements.  These top 4 trade candidates could really bolster our farm system with quality returns.

5. Adam Jones - I see one quality piece in return for him as he will make a decent corner OF for a playoff contender.  I think his name power is strong enough to gain interest and get us that one solid prospect back, but it may only be a team's #5-10 prospect.

6. Brad Brach - Sort of like Jones in name power, but really hasn't been "shutdown" like he was in the past.  I think he gets one quality piece back if he remains in the closer role and stays at least slightly above average.  Similar value to Jones in return.

7. Richard Blier - Has quietly dominated the past couple of seasons, he's left-handed, affordable, and controllable. Not as valued as Givens, but like Givens, sell high. Might actually get a stronger return than we think depending on the LOOGY market.

8. Danny Valencia - Killing lefties as usual.  But that's it. Someone will need his bat.  Won't get much, but could get something.  Maybe a low A RP prospect?

9. Perdo Alvarez - LH version of Valencia.  Similar market and outcome essentially.  

10. Darren O'day - Has performed well when healthy.  The key is keeping him healthy for a few weeks and swinging him quickly.  The extra year on the contract could be attractive or scary depending on the next two months of health and performance.  Influences the potential return as well.  I'm willing to give away for low return to save money.

BONUS: Zach Britton - It's hard to make commentary on someone that hasn't thrown a pitch this year.  Maybe he won't.  If he does, and he's even slightly above average, I say swing him for something.  I wouldn't extend the qualifying offer after the season unless he absolutely destroyed the competition and reestablished himself to the point he was guaranteed a mega contract.  Probability seems to suggest that outcome as unlikely, so at this point we risk getting nothing at all in return if we don't trade a healthy Britton.  

A return from these 10 (potentially 11) moves would revamp a farm system that is currently in the middle of the pack as far as talent, yet staring down the road at a couple of opportune draft positions over the next couple of seasons.  Of course we know what is standing in the way of these moves.

[wildcard]

I am not for trading Schoop, Gausman, Givens and Bleier.    Trade them and the O's will be looking for someone like them. Its better to build around them.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, wildcard said:

I am not for trading Schoop, Gausman, Givens and Bleier.    Trade them and the O's will be looking for someone like them. Its better to build around them.

So you're extending Schoop and Gausman or are you expecting a one year turn around?

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, ScGO's said:

Before July 31st, I think there could be markets for the following 10 players.  Some will obviously bring more return than others, but if this team wants to be competitive (or competent) in the next five years, they need to consider making these moves now to maximize the value of the return.

 

1. Manny Machado - For obvious reasons.  Needs to be the creamiest of the return crop.

 

So what you really want is the draft pick?

[ScGO's]

5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

So you're extending Schoop and Gausman or are you expecting a one year turn around?

Exactly, it will be a few seasons until this team can contend again, more if we just let these guys walk away after having good seasons on a bad team for another year or two. 

[ScGO's]

6 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

So what you really want is the draft pick?

I think he can get a three or four player return with one being a top 100 guy.  I think his market is building.  They will need to pull the trigger soon though.  I think it hurts our chances the longer we wait till July 31st.  

 

If we traded the others on this list and had to take the draft pick for Manny, we're still sitting in a much better position than if do nothing.

[wildcard]

31 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

So you're extending Schoop and Gausman or are you expecting a one year turn around?

Extend both on them.  The O's need to have some anchor players.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, wildcard said:

Extend both on them.  The O's need to have some anchor players.

If they are not interested do you trade them or keep them and continue trying to negotiate?

[weams]

39 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

So you're extending Schoop and Gausman or are you expecting a one year turn around?

I'm for the trades. Unless Gausman wants to extend. 

[wildcard]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

If they are not interested do you trade them or keep them and continue trying to negotiate?

I would want Schoop to be extended before next season if he doesn't want to (which I doubt if he is offered a good contract)  then they have to try to trade him.  Gausman would need to be sign before 2020 or the same approach I would want to see taken.

[weams]

4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

If they are not interested do you trade them or keep them and continue trying to negotiate?

Trade now. No need to ever negotiate. 

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I would want Schoop to be extended before next season if he doesn't want to (which I doubt if he is offered a good contract)  then they have to try to trade him.  Gausman would need to be sign before 2020 or the same approach I would want to see taken.

So even if they say they are not interested you won't move them this season.

Got it.

Obviously I disagree but thanks for clarifying.

[mdbdotcom]

The Orioles need to start operating as a team that does not extend their players UNLESS they do it in their first two years in the majors and use the extension to buy out the arbitration years plus two years beyond. That's what should have been done with Manny, Schoop, Gausman and Bundy if we really wanted to hold onto them as long as possible.

Waiting for players to prove they are stars and then trying to extend them is not a sound practice for a team that can't afford to pay everyone top dollar.

[Greg Pappas]

3 hours ago, wildcard said:

I am not for trading Schoop, Gausman, Givens and Bleier.    Trade them and the O's will be looking for someone like them. Its better to build around them.

The name Bleier stands out here for me. You want to keep a quality 31-year old lefty reliever, rather than get a solid piece back? I get wanting to refrain from dealing the others, but I'm not sure I understand wanting to hold onto Bleier.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Greg Pappas said:

The name Bleier stands out here for me. You want to keep a quality 31-year old lefty reliever, rather than get a solid piece back? I get wanting to refrain from dealing the others, but I'm not sure I understand wanting to hold onto Bleier.

You never heard the expression Hold my Bleier?  You say it right before you do something stupid, like holding onto Bleier.