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11 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

You aren't understanding me correctly.

I don't think he's better than Mullins or Stewart right now.

Jones is playing at a replacement level right now.  You move him to right, where his arm doesn't play, and you help the defensive numbers a bit but his bat will look worse there.

I think the Jones v. Mullins argument is pointless. There’s no reason both can’t be on the same team and be productive. They’re two completely different types of players.

I also think it’s a bit premature to say a guy who has never played in MLB is better than a guy who has been productive here for a while just because his WAR on baseballreference.com says 0.0 right now.

This team also has enough money to pay Adam Jones and rebuild. They need to get some casual fan butts in the seats somehow. 

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The don't think the O's will send money along with Jones to get a better prospect.   

I don't see Jones being traded before the deadline.  His salary is too large for this production.   I think he is put on waivers on August 1st.   If he is claimed the O's will let him go.  If he is not they will keep him until enough comes off his salary that someone wants him.  I see him traded before August 31st so he will be on a playoff roster.

I think the O's would only want Jones back on a one year contract.  Maybe 1/5-7m.   If he is still available in February they could the O's resigning him.   But he probably gets a longer contract elsewhere.

Jones has been an outstanding Oriole.  And O's Hall of Famer.  But he is not worth as much to the O's moving forward as he will be to someone else.

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4 hours ago, wildcard said:

The don't think the O's will send money along with Jones to get a better prospect.   

I don't see Jones being traded before the deadline.  His salary is too large for this production.   I think he is put on waivers on August 1st.   If he is claimed the O's will let him go.  If he is not they will keep him until enough comes off his salary that someone wants him.  I see him traded before August 31st so he will be on a playoff roster.

I think the O's would only want Jones back on a one year contract.  Maybe 1/5-7m.   If he is still available in February they could the O's resigning him.   But he probably gets a longer contract elsewhere.

Jones has been an outstanding Oriole.  And O's Hall of Famer.  But he is not worth as much to the O's moving forward as he will be to someone else.

Rasmus got 3 million and nobody else wanted him.   Jones is going to get a lot more than 1 year 5 million. 

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5 hours ago, wildcard said:

The don't think the O's will send money along with Jones to get a better prospect.   

I don't see Jones being traded before the deadline.  His salary is too large for this production.   I think he is put on waivers on August 1st.   If he is claimed the O's will let him go.  If he is not they will keep him until enough comes off his salary that someone wants him.  I see him traded before August 31st so he will be on a playoff roster.

I think the O's would only want Jones back on a one year contract.  Maybe 1/5-7m.   If he is still available in February they could the O's resigning him.   But he probably gets a longer contract elsewhere.

Jones has been an outstanding Oriole.  And O's Hall of Famer.  But he is not worth as much to the O's moving forward as he will be to someone else.

Why wouldn’t the Orioles be willing to eat some of his salary? 

If he is claimed and they let him go that looks worse than trading him. 

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6 hours ago, wildcard said:

The don't think the O's will send money along with Jones to get a better prospect.   

I don't see Jones being traded before the deadline.  His salary is too large for this production.   I think he is put on waivers on August 1st.   If he is claimed the O's will let him go.  If he is not they will keep him until enough comes off his salary that someone wants him.  I see him traded before August 31st so he will be on a playoff roster.

I think the O's would only want Jones back on a one year contract.  Maybe 1/5-7m.   If he is still available in February they could the O's resigning him.   But he probably gets a longer contract elsewhere.

Jones has been an outstanding Oriole.  And O's Hall of Famer.  But he is not worth as much to the O's moving forward as he will be to someone else.

No HR's since June 2... 723 OPS, and a -1.4 WAR playing CF. Jones needs to finish strong to get $5-7M next year. 

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1 hour ago, atomic said:

Rasmus got 3 million and nobody else wanted him.   Jones is going to get a lot more than 1 year 5 million. 

From the O's he might get more than $5M. I dont see anyone else offering much, especially if his current cold streak continues.

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Last year Melky Cabrera put up a .285/.324/.423 line good for 17HRs and a .747OPS in 156 games. That gave him a grand total of -.2fWAR. In 2018 no one offered him a mlb job. He signed on a minor league deal to play with the Indians and then was cut a few weeks after he was promoted to the majors.  While Jones may play better defense, the bat isn't any better and no one is interested in a sub 100wRC+ guy playing RF unless they're defensive monster which Jones is certainly not at this point.

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4 hours ago, eddie83 said:

Why wouldn’t the Orioles be willing to eat some of his salary? 

If he is claimed and they let him go that looks worse than trading him. 

O's don't normally give away money to other teams.  Maybe less than a million if they other team is giving the a really good player/prospect.

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