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At the beginning of the season, I never would have guessed that Dan would be the GM again next season. I also never would have imagined that Buck and all his coaches would get fired. I don't know about you Oriole fans but I believe this is what is going to happen. I absolutely love Buck and have a lot of respect for him. However, it is time for him to go. You just can't bring him back after an absolute horrible 2018 season. Thoughts?

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IF, and that is a big if...it goes that way, it's not firing Buck or coaches.  None of them are under contract after this year, so technically it would just be moving on...

But that said, I think it certainly appears much more likely than it did in say April.  50-50?

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If DD is coming back, he should be able to select the manager.  If he's not, the incoming GM should be making the decision.   If they extend or re-up Buck without a GM in place, I get the sense that things aren't really changing with the direction of this team. 

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10 minutes ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

At the beginning of the season, I never would have guessed that Dan would be the GM again next season. I also never would have imagined that Buck and all his coaches would get fired. I don't know about you Oriole fans but I believe this is what is going to happen. I absolutely love Buck and have a lot of respect for him. However, it is time for him to go. You just can't bring him back after an absolute horrible 2018 season. Thoughts?

Pretty high I hope. 

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Typically you get rid of a manager if he's not a good one (does not apply to Showalter) or if he's lost the clubhouse. The latter might be applicable to Buck, but with the amount of roster turnover lately (with more to come), that is less of a factor. 

I think it would be a huge mistake to part ways with Buck. It was not very long ago that he cobbled together a 2012 Orioles team into a playoff team within a game of the ALCS. He's a good manager with a bad team. Let him stay and coach up the next crop of youngsters, but this time, be careful not to let him stick around too long. Three more years should do it.

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56 minutes ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

At the beginning of the season, I never would have guessed that Dan would be the GM again next season. I also never would have imagined that Buck and all his coaches would get fired. I don't know about you Oriole fans but I believe this is what is going to happen. I absolutely love Buck and have a lot of respect for him. However, it is time for him to go. You just can't bring him back after an absolute horrible 2018 season. Thoughts?

I agree with this entire post, and if I read it and didn't see a name I could claim it as my own thoughts. Well said across the board. 

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27 minutes ago, Sanfran327 said:

Typically you get rid of a manager if he's not a good one (does not apply to Showalter) or if he's lost the clubhouse. The latter might be applicable to Buck, but with the amount of roster turnover lately (with more to come), that is less of a factor. 

I think it would be a huge mistake to part ways with Buck. It was not very long ago that he cobbled together a 2012 Orioles team into a playoff team within a game of the ALCS. He's a good manager with a bad team. Let him stay and coach up the next crop of youngsters, but this time, be careful not to let him stick around too long. Three more years should do it.

One glimpse of his Orioles career and you could make the claim they have already let him stick around too long... 

www.baseball-reference.com/managers/showabu99.shtml

 

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6 minutes ago, Dipper9 said:

One glimpse of his Orioles career and you could make the claim they have already let him stick around too long... 


www.baseball-reference.com/managers/showabu99.shtml

 

I don't disagree. Just saying, it's less applicable in light of the roster turnover. 

I just think he's a brilliant manager/cultivator of young talent. 

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I can only hope that Showalter  and his crew are not given new contracts.  Time for fresh faces, new blood, new ideas and  a different approach.  He managed the team right out of the 2016 WC game by leaving Britton, the league's best reliever, in the bullpen, and sticking with Jimenez.

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