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1 hour ago, TonySoprano said:

I’m not ignoring the NY "money and exposure" nonsense so much as saying, "Oh look, another Yanker in the HOF.  Yawn."  They'll get Rivera and Captain Over-rated in back-to-back years, with the writers all mesmerized by the high voting percentages they'll get.  You tell me when Baltimore gets another chance at a HOFer
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It’s a good point that if Mussina gets in the same year as Rivera or Jeter, there’d be little commercial advantage in putting Mussina in a Yankee cap, because the NY crowd is coming to the ceremony anyway.  In any event, I doubt people make their decision whether to attend a guy’s HoF induction based on what cap appears on his plaque.   You either care enough about the player to attend, or you don’t.    My guess is Mussina wouldn’t attract a huge crowd of Oriole fans no matter what cap he has on his plaque.    He’s just not beloved the same way as the other Orioles who are enshrined in Cooperstown.  

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1 hour ago, TonySoprano said:

Zero World Series rings in NY.  They won the year before he arrived and the first year after he left,  so maybe the Hall will hold that against him. ?  I'm not ignoring the NY "money and exposure" nonsense so much as saying, "Oh look, another Yanker in the HOF.  Yawn."  They'll get Rivera and Captain Over-rated in back-to-back years, with the writers all mesmerized by the high voting percentages they'll get.  You tell me when Baltimore gets another chance at a HOFer
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Hey, I get it.  I'd be pretty happy if he went in as an Oriole, no doubt.  I wouldn't be as elated as when Cal got it, but anytime a player from your team gets into the Hall, it's special no matter what you feel towards the guy.  There definitely could be an attitude of "another yanker in the hall" and he might not get as much attention, even if he goes in with Jeter or Rivera.  

 

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14 hours ago, Frobby said:

It’s a good point that if Mussina gets in the same year as Rivera or Jeter, there’d be little commercial advantage in putting Mussina in a Yankee cap, because the NY crowd is coming to the ceremony anyway.  In any event, I doubt people make their decision whether to attend a guy’s HoF induction based on what cap appears on his plaque.   You either care enough about the player to attend, or you don’t.    My guess is Mussina wouldn’t attract a huge crowd of Oriole fans no matter what cap he has on his plaque.    He’s just not beloved the same way as the other Orioles who are enshrined in Cooperstown.  

Good point.

I think if he was allowed to stay here, then he would be ranked up there among the top.

Leaving left a bad taste in some fans, not to mention, landing with the MFY.

I think Moose, not being the nicest guy around, probably has to play a role in it.

Of course, none of this should matter, it ought to be based on results of his career.

 

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9 hours ago, TonySoprano said:

Catfish Hunter, Greg Maddux, Tony LaRussa all have blank logo caps by request.  My guess is that's what will happen with Mussina as well.  A NY cap would be so wrong.

Blank caps are wrong.  Ugh, looking like a fugitive on a made for TV movie or something.

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21 minutes ago, Dipper9 said:

Wow.  I am drawing a complete blank on this gentleman.  

 

18 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Me too.

Not me.    Mediocre starter with decent velocity but not much more.   Would have been a fifth starter on a good team but was about as good as we had for a couple years.  

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With five wins, Caleb Smith leads the Marlins in pitching victories.

It’s a measly number for a staff leader. For that matter, it will represent a major league record if five wins is all it takes for a Marlins pitcher to lead the staff this season.

No staff wins leader in big-league history had fewer than six.

Miami Herald - https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/miami-marlins/article217064720.html

The Marlins have 51 wins recorded by 21 different pitchers.  14 Orioles pitchers have been credited for a win, with Bundy stuck on 7, and yes, Chris Tillman won a game.   While 7 wins wouldn't be a MLB record, Bundy would set a team record for fewest wins leading the club.

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