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1 hour ago, interloper said:

We should also keep in mind, though, that Dan and Buck were not on the same page, so you had a 3-headed monster with Brady. That (hopefully) won't be the case between Elias and whatever manager he chooses, so if Brady can fall in line, great. 

Each one of us was excited about Brady's work early on when he first joined the front office. I don't mind seeing if ME can define his role in a new setup where everyone isn't working against each other.

How could you be excited when no one knows what he did (or does)? I'm fine if Elias wants to give him a free pass for now as long as he clearly defines his role. And if proves that he's unable to stay in his lane then he isn't afraid to let him go.

This whole Brady situation hits a bit close to home for me. I work with a person who has a very "broad" role and seems to insert herself whenever and where ever she wants do while never taking ownership or responsibility for anything. I can tell you first hand that this approach doesn't work and just creates frustration and resentment. 

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10 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

How could you be excited when no one knows what he did (or does)? I'm fine if Elias wants to give him a free pass for now as long as he clearly defines his role. And if proves that he's unable to stay in his lane then he isn't afraid to let him go.

This whole Brady situation hits a bit close to home for me. I work with a person who has a very "broad" role and seems to insert herself whenever and where ever she wants do while never taking ownership or responsibility for anything. I can tell you first hand that this approach doesn't work and just creates frustration and resentment. 

Players have said they don't like Brady in the locker room and competent coaches have quit because of his interfering with them.  I am not sure why anyone would want Brady on their team. He isn't a team player.  He is a Brady look at me aren't I cool.  I am smarter than you and this guy who has been awful for 10 years is just because you are a bad coach.   And I think he wears a toupee. 

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1 hour ago, atomic said:

Players have said they don't like Brady in the locker room and competent coaches have quit because of his interfering with them.  I am not sure why anyone would want Brady on their team. He isn't a team player.  He is a Brady look at me aren't I cool.  I am smarter than you and this guy who has been awful for 10 years is just because you are a bad coach.   And I think he wears a toupee. 

To be specific, when he was first brought in, he has some very progressive ideas about fitness and training and he absolutely helped some of our players. He was almost universally lauded as rebuilding or at least rebranding some of the strength/nutrition/conditioning aspects of the organization. He's been vocal about signing our good players earlier rather than waiting and letting them get expensive. I think he has good ideas, but clearly he's not a guy whose personality/methods mesh with others. 

I don't know if there's a need for him at this point, but I also think he can be made to get in line a little and still be helpful. If not, hopefully Elias has the power to move on. 

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7 hours ago, interloper said:

To be specific, when he was first brought in, he has some very progressive ideas about fitness and training and he absolutely helped some of our players. He was almost universally lauded as rebuilding or at least rebranding some of the strength/nutrition/conditioning aspects of the organization. He's been vocal about signing our good players earlier rather than waiting and letting them get expensive. I think he has good ideas, but clearly he's not a guy whose personality/methods mesh with others. 

I don't know if there's a need for him at this point, but I also think he can be made to get in line a little and still be helpful. If not, hopefully Elias has the power to move on. 

There is absolutely no objective “need” for Brady Anderson. Do you think other teams will just snap him up because he is such a talented front office genius?   Sycophancy only gets you so far and his gravy train has lasted way too long, imho

Hey, Brady, how did that fourth year you insisted on for O’day turn out?  And how much did that “analytic” decision cost us in the return we got for Gausman because we had to dump the salary you insisted on for your buddy O’Day?  Geez...we fired Dan and Buck, but we think Brady is some talent that we must keep?  

http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2015/12/os-brady-anderson-on-davisoday-i-hope-in-the-future-we-are-quicker-to-react.html

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10 hours ago, tntoriole said:

There is absolutely no objective “need” for Brady Anderson. Do you think other teams will just snap him up because he is such a talented front office genius?   Sycophancy only gets you so far and his gravy train has lasted way too long, imho

Hey, Brady, how did that fourth year you insisted on for O’day turn out?  And how much did that “analytic” decision cost us in the return we got for Gausman because we had to dump the salary you insisted on for your buddy O’Day?  Geez...we fired Dan and Buck, but we think Brady is some talent that we must keep?  

http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2015/12/os-brady-anderson-on-davisoday-i-hope-in-the-future-we-are-quicker-to-react.html

I mean, that's fair. No argument there. 

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On 11/20/2018 at 11:21 AM, wildbillhiccup said:

I know you like to defend Brady, but there have been plenty of reports about his meddling and undefined role over the years. So while I do agree that Elias needs to make his own informed opinion I also think that where there's smoke there's usually fire. 

I didn’t see many negative reports. Only Ken Rosenthal if I’m honest with many articles replying to that. Only that and speculation by fans.

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3 hours ago, Orange in my Veins said:

I didn’t see many negative reports. Only Ken Rosenthal if I’m honest with many articles replying to that. Only that and speculation by fans.

I don't think Ken Rosenthal will ever report fairly regarding the Orioles. He has something stuck in his craw from when he worked for The Baltimore Sun. And he hates the Ownership. I always take his opinion with 2 grains of salt.

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1 hour ago, Satyr3206 said:

I don't think Ken Rosenthal will ever report fairly regarding the Orioles. He has something stuck in his craw from when he worked for The Baltimore Sun. And he hates the Ownership. I always take his opinion with 2 grains of salt.

I couldn’t care less about Rosenthal’s opinions.    But he’s pretty good at digging up facts that our local reporters wouldn’t touch, and scooping the locals on trades and signings.    

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