Going Underground Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Don't think the Orioles are moving. As for the concerts,have heard 3 to five. The Green Day,Weezer one went to Nationals Park. But still they think they can get a few. Orioles’ executives, facing the challenge of marketing a team that has lost 100-plus games in each of the last two years, are banking partly on its remaining superstar — its popular stadium — to draw in fans with “major headliner concerts” and other events in the near future. “There is a lot of planning and development work going on now for what Camden Yards is going to look like for not just next year but five or 10 years from now,” said Greg Bader, the team’s senior vice president of administration and experience. Among the possibilities “up for conversation” is whether the stadium still needs 46,000 seats, Bader said. Newer venues, such as the Atlanta Braves’ Sun Trust Park, Nationals Park in Washington and Marlins Park in Miami, have fewer seats. Last July, the Orioles broke with more than 25 years of team tradition by holding a concert at the stadium featuring singer Billy Joel. The longtime baseball-only venue joined other iconic ballparks such as Boston’s Fenway Park, Chicago’s Wrigley Field and Los Angeles’ Dodger Stadium that have sought to capitalize on their cachet — and make money — in recent years by hosting concerts. “That is not going to be a unique event. That is literally going to be the start of something,” said Jennifer Grondahl, senior vice president of community development and communications. “Oriole Park at Camden Yards is a venue, it’s a destination for residents, for tourists. We want to use this ballpark not just for baseball but for other concerts, for community events.” Bader said fans could anticipate “major headliner concerts like that in the near future.” https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-orioles-camden-yards-20191107-zm3textb4vfpxgehnfazm7yzja-story.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipper9 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Camden Yards would be an ideal venue for a major WWE Pay Per View. Just sayin'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 What is the upside to reducing the number of seats? The stadium shell is what it is. Of course, I’m a tall guy, so if they wanted to give each row a couple more inches of leg room, I wouldn’t complain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipper9 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, Frobby said: What is the upside to reducing the number of seats? The stadium shell is what it is. Of course, I’m a tall guy, so if they wanted to give each row a couple more inches of leg room, I wouldn’t complain. I think there has been some talk of removing some of the seats so that you can see into the stadium from the concession area, but that seems to me to be a major engineering change needed and not an easy task to complete in an offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Underground Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Dipper9 said: I think there has been some talk of removing some of the seats so that you can see into the stadium from the concession area, but that seems to me to be a major engineering change needed and not an easy task to complete in an offseason. Yes, did not want to print the whole article but it is mentioned. Newer stadiums look different than Camden Yards. Many are smaller and include open concourses with field views, and stadium clubs for VIPs that offer prime, low-level field views. At Camden Yards, “there simply aren’t the areas of the ballpark that allow for folks to gather and have a social experience,” Bader said. “We’ve got the roof deck and we’ve got the flag court and Legends Park area that have greater potential.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipper9 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Going Underground said: Yes, did not want to print the whole article but it is mentioned. Newer stadiums look different than Camden Yards. Many are smaller and include open concourses with field views, and stadium clubs for VIPs that offer prime, low-level field views. At Camden Yards, “there simply aren’t the areas of the ballpark that allow for folks to gather and have a social experience,” Bader said. “We’ve got the roof deck and we’ve got the flag court and Legends Park area that have greater potential.” This is just strange to me. I go to the ballpark to, ya know, watch a baseball game. But I guess as they say, "the world is a-changing." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Underground Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Going Underground said: Yes, did not want to print the whole article but it is mentioned. Newer stadiums look different than Camden Yards. Many are smaller and include open concourses with field views, and stadium clubs for VIPs that offer prime, low-level field views. At Camden Yards, “there simply aren’t the areas of the ballpark that allow for folks to gather and have a social experience,” Bader said. “We’ve got the roof deck and we’ve got the flag court and Legends Park area that have greater potential.” I thought the social experience was getting up from your seat during the inning and getting on your cell phone and waving here I am to someone on the other side of the stadium. Also getting up and talking about what concessions you want and getting money and blocking peoples view. Very social experience. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBird Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Frobby said: What is the upside to reducing the number of seats? The stadium shell is what it is. Of course, I’m a tall guy, so if they wanted to give each row a couple more inches of leg room, I wouldn’t complain. I'm all for removing some seats to make the playing field larger, so we have a chance to sign a stud FA pitcher someday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whammer Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I say they should remove first 10 rows in outfield, move fences back 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, DirtyBird said: I'm all for removing some seats to make the playing field larger, so we have a chance to sign a stud FA pitcher someday. They can do that now by moving home plate back. They did that one season, then reverted. Prior to the 2001 season, in conjunction with extensive renovations to the ballpark's playing surface and drainage system, the Orioles reconfigured the ballpark with outfield dimensions that were up to 7 feet larger than those used since Camden Yards opened in 1992. However, it was found that the new dimensions did not significantly improve sight lines for fans, as had been anticipated, and adversely affected the viewing angle of the batter's eye wall. As a result, the ballpark was returned to its original dimensions before the 2002 season. https://www.mlb.com/orioles/ballpark/information/history 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrungoHazewood Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, Dipper9 said: I think there has been some talk of removing some of the seats so that you can see into the stadium from the concession area, but that seems to me to be a major engineering change needed and not an easy task to complete in an offseason. Those are load-bearing walls, they're not coming down! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrungoHazewood Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, Whammer said: I say they should remove first 10 rows in outfield, move fences back 28 minutes ago, DirtyBird said: I'm all for removing some seats to make the playing field larger, so we have a chance to sign a stud FA pitcher someday. Once again I'll bring up my plan to remove the center field fence and put the turf area in front of the 30' wall out in between the bullpens and bleachers in play. There'd be a half dozen inside-the-park homers a year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurphDogg Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 If they really wanted to do so, they could remove the entire third deck in left field fair territory, which would improve the view into the stadium for the Hilton and the Zenith, and improve the view looking out somewhat (but not of anything as attractive as the Bromo Tower, more like the top of the University of Maryland hospital). Maybe replace that area with a party deck. Obviously, if it were built now, that area would not be 30+ rows deep. But that is a lot of money to spend just to make tickets artificially more scarce. It would only make sense to do that if the team were to have a financial interest in the Hilton and/or the Zenith. The entire upper deck could probably lose the back 5-10 rows, but there isn't really much you can do with that space, short of putting up ugly billboards like at FedEx Field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripken Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I was at the Billy Joel concert. Like most stadiums the acoustics were not great but it sure looked neat. Whatever makes money I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbillhiccup Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Dipper9 said: I think there has been some talk of removing some of the seats so that you can see into the stadium from the concession area, but that seems to me to be a major engineering change needed and not an easy task to complete in an offseason. I hate this idea. PNC Park is like this and I hate it. The concession area feels cramped and very minor leagueish. Maybe they should focus more on improving the team and trying to fill the empty seats instead of removing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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