Caleb needs to come home

[Frobby]

2 hours ago, weams said:

I'd prefer no connections to those teams that were the perpetuation of our competitive window. It's a new year, a new deal. Out with the old. Give me a bullpen catcher from driveline. 

If we decide we need a cheap veteran player, I won’t hold it against a guy that he played for us previously.    But it also won’t cut much in his favor.    And Caleb is getting long in the tooth.    

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

2 hours ago, wildcard said:

 He went on sabbatical  last year to Arizona but he only played 20 games in the majors.  He  had a 806 OPS in the PCL.   He is currently 33.

 

The average OPS in the PCL was .831 in 2019 and the average OPS of the Arizona Diamondbacks affiliate the  Reno Acess was .871.

I like Caleb, but he is done. I'd welcome him back in a coaching role only. Also the Orioles don't need a catcher. Can Caleb pitch? 

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

The average OPS in the PCL was .831 in 2019 and the average OPS of the Arizona Diamondbacks affiliate the  Reno Acess was .871.

I like Caleb, but he is done. I'd welcome him back in a coaching role only. Also the Orioles don't need a catcher. Can Caleb pitch? 

Two appearances 1.1 IP, nothing but zeros. 

[mdbdotcom]

If we're bringing back someone, I'd prefer Wieters. Stronger leader, better defender.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, mdbdotcom said:

If we're bringing back someone, I'd prefer Wieters. Stronger leader, better defender.

Didn't Buck have to intervene because Wieters was being hazed?  Doesn't sound like someone with strong leadership skills.

[mdbdotcom]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Didn't Buck have to intervene because Wieters was being hazed?  Doesn't sound like someone with strong leadership skills.

That's news to me. He always struck me as the defensive captain on the field.

[scOtt]

3 hours ago, weams said:

I'd prefer no connections to those teams that were the perpetuation of our competitive window. It's a new year, a new deal. Out with the old. Give me a bullpen catcher from driveline. 

 

[scOtt]

2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

The man has total control, if Davis is still with the team it's because Elias wants him there.

 

What were you drinking last night, Absinthe?

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, scOtt said:

What were you drinking last night, Absinthe?

I tried to avoid it, I hear it makes the heart grow fonder.

[mdbdotcom]

Just now, scOtt said:

What were you drinking last night, Absinthe?

Absinthe maketh the heart grow fonder. Pardon my lithp.

[DrungoHazewood]

3 hours ago, weams said:

PLAYER (10)	POS.	AGE	FROM	TO	YRS	DOLLARS	AVERAGE SALARY	SIGNED	2019 WAR	2020 WAR
Russell Martin	C	37	LAD	TBD	-		-		0.67
Jason Castro	C	33	MIN	TBD	-		-		0.67
Welington Castillo	C	33	TEX	TBD	-		-		-0.24
Robinson Chirinos	C	36	HOU	TBD	-		-		3.81
Brian McCann	C	36	ATL	TBD	-		-		0.31
Devin Mesoraco	C	32	NYM	TBD	-		-
Bryan Holaday	C	32	MIA	TBD	-		-		0.28
Kevin Plawecki	C	29	CLE	TBD	-		-		-0.14
Josh Phegley	C	32	OAK	TBD	-		-		0.26
Jose Lobaton	C	35	LAD	TBD	-		-
John Ryan Murphy	C	29	ATL	TBD	-		-		0.21
Josh Thole	C	33	LAA	TBD	-		-
Elias Diaz	C	29	PIT	TBD	-		-		-1.32
Kevan Smith	C	32	LAA	TBD	-		-		0.56
John Hicks	C	30	DET	TBD	-		-		-0.56
Jonathan Lucroy	C	34	CHC	TBD	-		-		-0.64
Wilkin Castillo	C	36	MIA	TBD	-		-
Oscar Hernandez	C	26	BOS	TBD	-		-
Joe Hudson	C	29	STL	TBD	-		-		-0.03
Steve Baron	C	29	PIT	TBD	-		-		-0.06
Rob Brantly	C	30	PHI	TBD	-		-		-0.03
Bobby Wilson	C	37	DET	TBD	-		-		-0.66
Rene Rivera	C	36	NYM	TBD	-		-		-0.08
Juan Centeno	C	30	BOS	TBD	-		-		-0.08
Chris Stewart	C	38	SD	TBD	-		-
Hector Sanchez	C	30	DET	TBD	-		-
Dioner Navarro	C	36	CLE	TBD	-		-
J.C. Boscan	C	40	KC	TBD	-		-
Rafael Lopez	C	32	TOR	TBD	-

 

These guys all appear to be available. 

It's pretty funny that whatever site this list comes from thinks* they can estimate player value down to the hundredths of a win.  That's a 10th of a run, or a fraction of the value of a single strike.  I'm a fairly big advocate of using WAR for a lot of things, but even a half a win in assumed error might be stretching it.

* I'm going to assume that they just posted estimated WAR totals and didn't even think about the absurdity of going to two decimal points.

[mdbdotcom]

2 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

It's pretty funny that whatever site this list comes from thinks* they can estimate player value down to the hundredths of a win.  That's a 10th of a run, or a fraction of the value of a single strike.  I'm a fairly big advocate of using WAR for a lot of things, but even a half a win in assumed error might be stretching it.

* I'm going to assume that they just posted estimated WAR totals and didn't even think about the absurdity of going to two decimal points.

Looks to me like the WAR posted is historic, from 2019. I don't see any WAR posted under 2020.

[DrungoHazewood]

9 minutes ago, scOtt said:

What were you drinking last night, Absinthe?

A few weekends ago I sipped a little of the green fairy.  If you put your mind to the romantic idea that Poe and other 18th century guys drank it you can get past that it tastes like Listerine mixed with a bit of grain alcohol. Somewhere I have a slotted spoon to drip water over a sugar cube into the stuff.

[DrungoHazewood]

Just now, mdbdotcom said:

Looks to me like the WAR posted is historic, from 2019. I don't see any WAR posted under 2020.

I don't know, I'm just looking at the list and seeing (for example) that Russell Martin is valued at 0.67 wins.  Not 0.68 or 0.65... just 0.67.

[DrungoHazewood]

4 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

The average OPS in the PCL was .831 in 2019 and the average OPS of the Arizona Diamondbacks affiliate the  Reno Acess was .871.

I like Caleb, but he is done. I'd welcome him back in a coaching role only. Also the Orioles don't need a catcher. Can Caleb pitch? 

Kevin Cron had a line straight out of Ruth's prime on that same Reno team, OPSing 1.226.  Went to Oakland and had a .790.  Caleb is still the .600 OPS guy he's always been.