Pablo Lopez

[HowAboutThat]

20 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

Well, if I just wanted them for veteranocity, I'd pay a lot less for some old guy. I was referring to guys who would slot in at 1-2 in our rotation with Means, Rodriguez and someone else as 3-5.

I'm talking about guys who would, along with a lineup of Mullins, Hays, Mountcastle, Mancini, Rutschman, Stowers and late this year or early next year infield reinforcements, make us exciting and somewhat competitive. 

I'm talking about on field talent, some leadership AND the O's version of Jayson Werth as it relates to signaling the fans that now is the time.

I'm just walking through my pipe dream. I do think it's a more reasonable scenario (though still unlikely) when you're sure that two of your infielders are ML ready to be real contributors in addition to everything else, so this offseason doesn't exactly add up. I get that.

Oh I can match your dreams pipe for pipe, believe me.

thanks for your clarification but again I don’t think they would necessarily be mid-rotation guys, and they’d cost 20 million or more to find out and that’s a LOUSY way to spend your gambling money.

The only pitching for us that makes sense is taking cheap flyers on old washed up guys who once were, young cheap guys who haven’t been but might yet be, or established young guys who ARE. And I don’t think Mike wants to cough up for that final group.

[Sports Guy]

44 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Mullins put up 5.7 WAR last year. He may never repeat that but 4 WAR would seem to be a pretty fair projection going forward. With four years of control. Age 27. I don't see why he can't be productive for 3+ years. I know there is risk of regression but I just don't know how you build to anything if you trade your best player and they're not even anywhere near free agency. For someone who wants to win now I am little surprised you are proposing this. 

Because I think you can buy and sell and I think the deal I proposed gets us closer to winning.

I also don’t believe in Mullins to the level you do.  But I hope someone else and offers us a deal like this.  

[Sports Guy]

Btw, I really like the upside of Lopez but this is a guy who has yet to throw much more than 100 innings in a season and he had a shoulder issue last year.

So I don’t think his value comes close to GRod and it’s debatable if it’s in the area of Hall although I would probably give Lopez the nod personally.

[sportsfan8703]

23 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

Mullins and Santander for Lopez, Meyer and Brian Anderson.

If only Santander had any value. That’s why we should be selling high on players. There was talk about giving Santander an extension after his big half season. Glad we didn’t do that. 
 

My hope is that Santander plays RF and and stays healthy until the trade deadline and then we move him to full time DH after Mancini is traded. 

[Frobby]

18 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

If only Santander had any value. That’s why we should be selling high on players. There was talk about giving Santander an extension after his big half season. Glad we didn’t do that. 
 

My hope is that Santander plays RF and and stays healthy until the trade deadline and then we move him to full time DH after Mancini is traded. 

His “big half season” was 37 games.  It’s silly to base anything on that.   We were so desperate to talk baseball by the time they started playing in late July, we were clutching at straws.  Santander had a 37-game stretch this year where he had a .285/.340/.577 slash line.   Did anyone even notice?

[Aristotelian]

1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

If only Santander had any value. That’s why we should be selling high on players. There was talk about giving Santander an extension after his big half season. Glad we didn’t do that. 
 

My hope is that Santander plays RF and and stays healthy until the trade deadline and then we move him to full time DH after Mancini is traded. 

I hope we trade both.