What if Greinke fell to the O's?

[wildcard]

He's  a 38 year old control pitcher.   What if the O's offered 1/15m with a club 15m option for 2023 and that was the best offer he got.    Is that a good deal for the O's?   Could a rotation of Means, Greinke, Grayson, Lyles and whoever be a game changer for the O's?  Would Greinke be the O's Charlie Morton?

Just something to think about.

[Sports Guy]

They won’t offer him that and he wouldn’t be a good addition for us.

[Can_of_corn]

9 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

They won’t offer him that and he wouldn’t be a good addition for us.

He's more likely to play in Japan.

[sportsfan8703]

Two way player?  Grienke could be a stop gap SS and SP. haha. 

[Sports Guy]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

He's more likely to play in Japan.

Yea, I don’t see any reason he would ever sign here.  

[oriole]

I’d be okay with that, but I doubt Greinke would. 

[Yardball85]

10 hours ago, wildcard said:

He's  a 38 year old control pitcher.   What if the O's offered 1/15m with a club 15m option for 2023 and that was the best offer he got.    Is that a good deal for the O's?   Could a rotation of Means, Greinke, Grayson, Lyles and whoever be a game changer for the O's?  Would Greinke be the O's Charlie Morton?

Just something to think about.

The problem is, the Orioles would never spend $15M on a player, because they are the Orioles.  

[wildcard]

2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

He's more likely to play in Japan.

I don't think a Japan Team has ever spent 15m/yr on an American player and I doubt Greinke will be the first.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, wildcard said:

I don't think a Japan Team has ever spent 15m/yr on an American player and I doubt Greinke will be the first.

And?

I didn't say that I thought a Japanese team would pay him 15M.

 

[wildcard]

2 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

They won’t offer him that and he wouldn’t be a good addition for us.

It was a surprise that Elias spent 7m on Lyles.   Greinke is a much better starter.  I don't think it can be ruled out that the O's would offer Greinke 15m just like Tampa did with Morton.

[wildcard]

57 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Yea, I don’t see any reason he would ever sign here.  

If the O's offer the most money that is sometimes all it takes.

[jamalshw]

As long as the commitment is just one year, I'm onboard. He's a veteran arm that could help the youngsters (at least leading by example). His stuff is obviously a far cry from where it was and his 4.71 FIP last year scares me considering his career mark is 3.44. It leads me to believe his ERA was a bit of a mirage last year particularly given over his career his FIP (3.44) and ERA (3.41) are so close. 

Still, if he's a mid-4 ERA starter for 25-30 games, that's a huge improvement over what we had in 2021. 

I don't expect it to happen and would be surprised if it did, but I don't consider it completely impossible. 

[Aristotelian]

1 hour ago, Yardball85 said:

The problem is, the Orioles would never spend $15M on a player, because they are the Orioles.  

Chris Davis says hello. 

[LookinUp]

12 hours ago, wildcard said:

He's  a 38 year old control pitcher.   What if the O's offered 1/15m with a club 15m option for 2023 and that was the best offer he got.    Is that a good deal for the O's?   Could a rotation of Means, Greinke, Grayson, Lyles and whoever be a game changer for the O's?  Would Greinke be the O's Charlie Morton?

Just something to think about.

Define game changer.

[LA2]

On 12/14/2021 at 8:51 AM, wildcard said:

I don't think a Japan Team has ever spent 15m/yr on an American player and I doubt Greinke will be the first.

The top 2021 salary in Japan, American player or not, was 33-year-old ex-Yankee, returning Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka at $8.28 million. So you're probably right.

The top 100 Japanese salaries include ex-Orioles Dennis Sarfate, Adam Jones, and Wei-yin Chen at 9th ($4.6 million), 11th ($4.048 million), and 42nd ($1.8952 million) respectively:

https://nbakki.hatenablog.com/entry/Top_100_Salaries_of_NPB_Players_in_2021

Justin Smoak, once a favorite among some OH'ers, is 18th and, just to preempt Drungo, I would like to point out that sorta ex-Oriole blocked by Buck and definite ex-Cub Tsuyoshi Wada comes in at 73rd.