28 man opening day roster - so who's on it?

[seak05]

Owners and players have apparently agreed on a 28 man opening day roster (plus return of the runner starting on 2b in extra innings).

Wonder who will be on it?

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

Not Carlos Correa or Hunter Harvey. 
 

28 until May 1st. I gotta think most of the extra would be pitchers but who knows. I believe we need more pitching depth. Some of these kids being forced to the majors need more time in the minors to develop. 

[maybenxtyr]

I think it's way too early to tell who will be on the roster. I'm guessing that most of the guys we really want to see will not be there out of spring training. 

[Frobby]

I’m pretty sure it will be two extra pitchers.   

[waroriole]

Chirinos

Not Adley

Mountcastle

Urias

Mateo

Gutierrez

Hays

Mullins

Santander 

Mancini

Odor

Nevin

McKenna

Means

Lyles

Zimmermann

Lowther

T Wells

Akin

Baumann

Kremer

Sulser

Lopez

Scott

Baker

Tate

Fry

Greene

[Sports Guy]

Lots of pitchers with the ability to throw multiple innings.

[jamalshw]

I'll take a crack (although far too early to do so) and I will undoubtedly be wrong on several guys. 

C- Chirinos, Nottingham (though could be Bemboom or someone else, just for the month until it's Adley)

1B/DH- Moutcastle, Mancini

2B/SS/3B- Odor, Mateo, Urias, Gutierrez

OF- Mullins, Hays, Santander, McKenna, Stewart

SP- Means, Lyles, Zimmermann, Lowther, Akin (? This is really a crap shoot here)

RP- T.Wells, Sulser, Scott, Lopez, Fry, Tate, Bautista, Lakins, Baker, Kremer (the last 4 could be interchangable, I added Kremer given his starter background as someone who could give innings, but it could be someone else). 

[Orioles0615]

Yusniel Diaz should make the team. Time to find out what he is, don't care if he is a 4th outfielder or not. 

[Just Regular]

April 2022 could be a month we see big experiments in pushing more innings to Once Through The Order guys en masse.

Between 2020 and 2022's short springs, 2021 became the first season the number of Games Started by pitchers on 5-days of rest outnumbered starts on 4-days rest (1782-1610, or 37%-33% according to BP Annual).   The Brewers were near the vanguard of this and got 3 Cy Young caliber seasons from medium-pedigree guys.   I believe Grayson Rodriguez worked on 4-days rest more than Corbin Burnes last year.

Means and Lyles will have traditional roles dragging the team towards 1450 IP, but I am ready to not be surprised if the Game 3 pitcher is hooked even if the outing's first few innings let in one or zero runs.   On the talent curve, Teams generally know the difference between Pitchers 12-13 and Pitchers 14-15 they temporarily will get to have is almost zero, and they should leverage that roster spot so Jorge Lopez never yields that 5th inning 1.000 SLG into the team's basket of stats.

What isn't as well known is if Tyler Wells or DL Hall can get through six months throwing 2-3 innings every fourth day.

Last year Means threw 6 of his 10 starts on four days rest before the June 5 outing he departed in the 1st inning and then was out a month and a half.   Upon return, Means threw 4 of his final 13 turns on short (used to be regular) rest.   I'm curious to see what they do with him.    Lyles is hale and hearty and here to try for 200 innings so young pitchers don't have to do anything the Orioles don't want.

 

 

 

[Bahama O's Fan]

Isn't there some new rule this year where we can't use the "shuttle" like in previous years? I wanna think you can only send a player back and forth so many times. Is that right?

[Just Regular]

2 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

Isn't there some new rule this year where we can't use the "shuttle" like in previous years? I wanna think you can only send a player back and forth so many times. Is that right?

Right - 5 options this year before the guy needs to go through waivers to keep shuttling.

So the Rays 22nd best pitcher who is better than the Orioles 9th best pitcher may get out there on the wire for Elias at some point.    The Rays will probably only care about their 21 best pitchers, and take the risk with #22 that they only want to use these particular 12 series in 8 different weeks against the 5 teams he can match up well with.

[Aristotelian]

Locks: [bubble players in brackets]

SP (5) Means; Lyles; Akin; Zimmerman; Baumann [Kremer]

RP (7) Sulser; Tate; Scott; Ty Wells; Baker; Lopez, Alex Wells [Fry, Gillaspie, Smith, Perez]

C (2): Chiniros [Nottingham, Cumberland, Bemboom]

IF (5): Mountcastle, Urias, Gutierrez, Odor, Mateo [Nevin, Jahmai, Bannon]

DH (1): Mancini

OF (4): Mullins, Hays, Santander, McKenna [DJ, Yusniel]

(I have Baumann as a lock for the roster, currently have him as 5th starter but he could go in the bullpen). 

This gives us 22 including a backup catcher, leaving six spots for the bubble players. Not sure but I would guess a split of perhaps 15 pitchers, 13 position players, so we would need one of [Nevin, Jahmai, Bannon, DJ, Yusniel] and 3 of [Kremer, Fry, Gillaspie, Smith, Perez].

Maybe give DJ one last go along with Fry, Kremer, and Smith? 

 

 

 

[Aristotelian]

EDIT: Above list has 24 locks, 4 open spots. Can't count. 

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

3 hours ago, jamalshw said:

I'll take a crack (although far too early to do so) and I will undoubtedly be wrong on several guys. 

C- Chirinos, Nottingham (though could be Bemboom or someone else, just for the month until it's Adley)

1B/DH- Moutcastle, Mancini

2B/SS/3B- Odor, Mateo, Urias, Gutierrez

OF- Mullins, Hays, Santander, McKenna, Stewart

SP- Means, Lyles, Zimmermann, Lowther, Akin (? This is really a crap shoot here)

RP- T.Wells, Sulser, Scott, Lopez, Fry, Tate, Bautista, Lakins, Baker, Kremer (the last 4 could be interchangable, I added Kremer given his starter background as someone who could give innings, but it could be someone else). 

The SP is terrifying per usual. Elias’ guarantee to tank. Problem is, some of these kids belong in AAA still so by not signing stopgaps you aren’t exactly rebuilding but just sabotaging. 

[Frobby]

24 minutes ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

The SP is terrifying per usual. Elias’ guarantee to tank. Problem is, some of these kids belong in AAA still so by not signing stopgaps you aren’t exactly rebuilding but just sabotaging. 

I agree the Orioles’ pitching has the potential to be really, really bad — as bad as last year, which is awful.   

But at the same time, I think you kind of have to give the younger pitchers the opportunities and see whether 1-2 of them can show significant improvement.