28 man opening day roster - so who's on it?

[seak05]

Even pre-bruise would've taken McKenna over Stewart for 4th OF. If you need a 5th OF in a pinch Mancini can fill in. No idea what Stewart gives you

[OriolesMagic83]

7 minutes ago, seak05 said:

Even pre-bruise would've taken McKenna over Stewart for 4th OF. If you need a 5th OF in a pinch Mancini can fill in. No idea what Stewart gives you

Hasn't Mateo played some OF? 

[jamalshw]

Complete side note: Not that either will make the team and it's only 10 ABs, but I'm happy to see Diaz and Bannon showing some signs of life. I would love to see one of them do something at AAA and maybe earn a spot as a reserve in the majors to at least get something out of that Manny deal. 

[Lucky_13]

1 hour ago, jamalshw said:

Complete side note: Not that either will make the team and it's only 10 ABs, but I'm happy to see Diaz and Bannon showing some signs of life. I would love to see one of them do something at AAA and maybe earn a spot as a reserve in the majors to at least get something out of that Manny deal. 

Wonder if Bannon has a great spring they give him a shot at 3B just because they have no sure thing at the position on the roster. Seems they are giving Nevin a look there too

[seak05]

15 hours ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Hasn't Mateo played some OF? 

Yes, and a couple of the other utility candidates could also play in a pinch. Especially with the new LF, I really think you need a third solid defensive outfielder who can handle both LF and CF

[wildcard]

In the early going, after 7 games:  (This will change)

The battles to watch:

Diaz vs Stewart for an OF 28 man spot

Jones vs Odor for an infield spot

Nottingham vs Bemboom for backup catcher

Lakins vs Vespi vs Diplan for a promotion to the 40 man and the last 28 man roster spot.

Diaz vs Santander for RF starting job (Santander needs to start hitting)

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Krehbiel and Odor DFA'd

Stewart Optioned

Catchers: (2)  Chirinos,  (Nottingham or Bemboom)

Infield/DH:  (6) Mountcastle, Mancini, Urias, Mateo, Gutierrez, Jones

Outfield:  (5) Mullins, Hays, Diaz, Santander, McKenna

Starters: (5) Means, Lyles, T Wells, Bradish, Lowther

Relievers:  (10) Sulser, Tate, Fry, Bautista, Baker, Perez, Lopez, Scott, Kremer,   Lakins/Vespi/Diplan 

This  is only a snapshot and will change.

[Frobby]

I doubt the O’s jettison Odor in favor of Jones, who has an option remaining.   

[wildcard]

17 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I doubt the O’s jettison Odor in favor of Jones, who has an option remaining.   

I see your point but here are the counter points:

1) If Odor does not look good this spring and the O's still put him on the  28 man roster they are committed to pay his whole 700K salary.  He can't be optioned.  Jones improves the  40 man flexibility because of his option.

2)  The O's may want to promote one of Lakins, Vespi or Diplan and need the 40 man roster spot.

3) This is only a snapshot but Jones is hitting and Odor is not.

[Frobby]

35 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I see your point but here are the counter points:

1) If Odor does not look good this spring and the O's still put him on the  28 man roster they are committed to pay his whole 700K salary.  He can't be optioned.  Jones improves the  40 man flexibility because of his option.

2)  The O's may want to promote one of Lakins, Vespi or Diplan and need the 40 man roster spot.

3) This is only a snapshot but Jones is hitting and Odor is not.

That is good logic.   I’m not a fan of Odor, but I was not impressed with Jones last year.  Even if Jones outhits Odor in a few spring at bats, I’m pretty confident Odor is the better hitter and better defender at 2B.   I think Odor will be given a chance in the regular season to prove me wrong.  But, we’ll see.

[wildcard]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

That is good logic.   I’m not a fan of Odor, but I was not impressed with Jones last year.  Even if Jones outhits Odor in a few spring at bats, I’m pretty confident Odor is the better hitter and better defender at 2B.   I think Odor will be given a chance in the regular season to prove me wrong.  But, we’ll see.

You mean like Yolmer Sanchez?  Urias may be the starting 2B.   Jones plays 2B when Urias backs up SS or 3B.  

You could be right but if Odor keeps missing catches like he did in short right field the other day I would not bet on it.

[Aristotelian]

3 hours ago, wildcard said:

I see your point but here are the counter points:

1) If Odor does not look good this spring and the O's still put him on the  28 man roster they are committed to pay his whole 700K salary.  He can't be optioned.  Jones improves the  40 man flexibility because of his option.

2)  The O's may want to promote one of Lakins, Vespi or Diplan and need the 40 man roster spot.

3) This is only a snapshot but Jones is hitting and Odor is not.

How much does Odor make if he doesn't make the team? I assumed that his deal was guaranteed. 

Jones' overall track record is poor. I can't imagine a hot spring changes anything. I'm not wedded to Odor but I would almost rather see Nevin make the team or give Bannon a shot. (Bannon has 1.000 OPS so far!).

[Frobby]

2 hours ago, wildcard said:

You mean like Yolmer Sanchez?  Urias may be the starting 2B.   Jones plays 2B when Urias backs up SS or 3B.  

You could be right but if Odor keeps missing catches like he did in short right field the other day I would not bet on it.

I didn’t see or hear about that play.   

I agree Urias could be the starting 2B.  I prefer him over Odor for his bat.   But I’m worried he’ll end up at SS or 3B.   Both Mateo and Gutierrez have a lot to prove.   
 

[wildcard]

48 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

How much does Odor make if he doesn't make the team? I assumed that his deal was guaranteed. 

Jones' overall track record is poor. I can't imagine a hot spring changes anything. I'm not wedded to Odor but I would almost rather see Nevin make the team or give Bannon a shot. (Bannon has 1.000 OPS so far!).

I am sure that Odor gets his full contract as committed by Texas.   However you raise a good question.   I was thinking that if he was let go by the O's in ST  they wouldn't have to pay.  And Texas/NYY would pay for him.  But now that you ask I am not sure.

[wildcard]

23 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I didn’t see or hear about that play.   

I agree Urias could be the starting 2B.  I prefer him over Odor for his bat.   But I’m worried he’ll end up at SS or 3B.   Both Mateo and Gutierrez have a lot to prove.   
 

Don't forget Vavra.  He is on the 40 man and as the season goes on he could become an option at 2B.

[OriolesMagic83]

6 hours ago, wildcard said:

In the early going, after 7 games:  (This will change)

The battles to watch:

Diaz vs Stewart for an OF 28 man spot

Jones vs Odor for an infield spot

Nottingham vs Bemboom for backup catcher

Lakins vs Vespi vs Diplan for a promotion to the 40 man and the last 28 man roster spot.

Diaz vs Santander for RF starting job (Santander needs to start hitting)

----------------------

Krehbiel and Odor DFA'd

Stewart Optioned

Catchers: (2)  Chirinos,  (Nottingham or Bemboom)

Infield/DH:  (6) Mountcastle, Mancini, Urias, Mateo, Gutierrez, Jones

Outfield:  (5) Mullins, Hays, Diaz, Santander, McKenna

Starters: (5) Means, Lyles, T Wells, Bradish, Lowther

Relievers:  (10) Sulser, Tate, Fry, Bautista, Baker, Perez, Lopez, Scott, Kremer,   Lakins/Vespi/Diplan 

This  is only a snapshot and will change.

I don't think Santander will lose his starting spot in spring training.  O's are hoping he has a big 1st half and they can trade him at deadline.  Making him a 4th OF kills his value.  Plus, what has Diaz really shown since he was traded from LA.  It seems like he hasn't advanced at all as a hitter in 3 years.