Means to Have TJ surgery

[Aristotelian]

12 minutes ago, Orioles0615 said:

I mean I can easily see this as another excuse not to spend money. 

Lol, that is some next level conspiracy thinking. There is no way a player voluntarily goes under the knife and misses a year (plus) without medical necessity verified by multiple doctors. 

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

43 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

At least they didn’t drag this decision out over a few months. Better to do it now and start the rehab process sooner. 

Agreed. Isn’t he a FA after next year? Why not try to lock him up given the circumstances?

[Moose Milligan]

Somewhere before the 2024 season we will have posts on here about how Elias won’t spend money on a free agent starter because Means will be coming back and that’s just as good. 

[jabba72]

Hopefully he comes back stronger than ever. 

[Orioles0615]

3 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Lol, that is some next level conspiracy thinking. There is no way a player voluntarily goes under the knife and misses a year (plus) without medical necessity verified by multiple doctors. 

huh? I mean a Means surgery will be another excuse used this offseason to not sign any free agents next year. 

[OriolesMagic83]

Awful news, maybe the O's will compete in 2024.

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

34 minutes ago, Camden_yardbird said:

Elias: "Unfortunately due to this unforeseen circumstance we are going to have to extend the rebuild out to 2027."

People are catching on to the charade. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

3 minutes ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

Agreed. Isn’t he a FA after next year? Why not try to lock him up given the circumstances?

Well I agree with this sentiment, but I don't know if the Orioles are going to want to spend money on a player coming off a serious injury.

In fact as other posters are speculating this might be used as an excuse to not sign free agents in advance of the 2023 season. 

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

1 minute ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Well I agree with this sentiment, but I don't know if the Orioles are going to want to spend money on a player coming off a serious injury.

In fact as other posters are speculating this might be used as an excuse to not sign free agents in advance of the 2023 season. 

Of course, because they don’t want to spend any money. This is the guy you try to lock up with a team friendly deal given the risks and history with Baltimore. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 minute ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

Of course, because they don’t want to spend any money. This is the guy you try to lock up with a team friendly deal given the risks and history with Baltimore. 

It would also buy some goodwill with the fanbase. I'd rather see money spent on John Means instead of signing the next Ubaldo Jimenez. 

[seak05]

Spoiler: the orioles aren’t going to spend big money on a free agent even if they’re the #1 team in the division (unless Angelos is gone). Has nothing to do with any rebuilding timetable 

[Can_of_corn]

20 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

It would also buy some goodwill with the fanbase. I'd rather see money spent on John Means instead of signing the next Ubaldo Jimenez. 

Yep that Davis deal bought a lot of goodwill.

[Dr. Unk]

Someone get a bucket of chicken, and get Jobu a drink.  Geez.

[tntoriole]

If you are rebuilding, risks must be taken because players get hurt no matter what.  It would have been a risk trading him last year or the year before, but that may have turned out well.  It would be a risk to sign him to a long term deal now but this is when you get a bargain that he is right now. 
If not, then you see where he fits in to the squad after rehab .. maybe Grayrod and D Hall and others have stepped up and he can add to a rotation to win or be dealt for other needs. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

27 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Yep that Davis deal bought a lot of goodwill.

Means signed at a discount on a two or three year deal isn’t the same as overpaying Davis for seven years.