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Saturday, July 30: Orioles and Dean Kremer take on the Reds


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2 minutes ago, Yossarian said:

Should Mancini have tagged second base instead of the runner?  Does the force cone off if the traililing runner passes the runner ahead of him?  I would have tagged second bade there.

They should have tagged second base before they tagged Senzel and then I think it would have been a double play. 

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2 minutes ago, Yossarian said:

Should Mancini have tagged second base instead of the runner?  Does the force cone off if the traililing runner passes the runner ahead of him?  I would have tagged second bade there.

If the Orioles could have managed to tag second base before Farmer retreated back past Senzel, Farmer would have been out.  They probably could then have tagged Senzel while he was still wandering around between first and second, wondering what in the world had just happened.

But once Farmer retreated past Senzel, Senzel was out.  Once Senzel was out, Farmer was permitted to get back to first safely.

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2 minutes ago, RarityFlaherty said:

They should have tagged second base before they tagged Senzel and then I think it would have been a double play. 

That's exactly what i thought.  And that's what i thought Mancini was going to do - walk down down and touch second base,  knowing the Senzel had already passed Farmer. 

I'm just not sure if the force comes off when the trailing runner passes the guy ahead of him.  I don't think it does. 

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4 minutes ago, WillyM said:

If the Orioles could have managed to tag second base before Farmer retreated back past Senzel, Farmer would have been out.  They probably could then have tagged Senzel while he was still wandering around between first and second, wondering what in the world had just happened.

But once Farmer retreated past Senzel, Senzel was out.  Once Senzel was out, Farmer was permitted to get back to first safely.

So the force does come off when the runners cross?

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3 minutes ago, WillyM said:

If the Orioles could have managed to tag second base before Farmer retreated back past Senzel, Farmer would have been out.  They probably could then have tagged Senzel while he was still wandering around between first and second, wondering what in the world had just happened.

But once Farmer retreated past Senzel, Senzel was out.  Once Senzel was out, Farmer was permitted to get back to first safely.

Is Senzel automatically out as soon as he passes the lead runner? If not, they could have just tagged the base before tagging Senzel and it’s a double play because before Senzel is out, Farmer is forced to go to second. 

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3 minutes ago, RarityFlaherty said:

Is Senzel automatically out as soon as he passes the lead runner? If not, they could have just tagged the base before tagging Senzel and it’s a double play because before Senzel is out, Farmer is forced to go to second. 

Yes. He is automatically out when he passes the runner in front of him. The umps should immediately indicate it,  but the play continues and the lead runner is still live.

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4 minutes ago, RarityFlaherty said:

Is Senzel automatically out as soon as he passes the lead runner? If not, they could have just tagged the base before tagging Senzel and it’s a double play because before Senzel is out, Farmer is forced to go to second. 

Yes, Senzel is automatically out as soon as he passes the lead runner.  Once Senzel is out, the force is off, and Farmer does not have to go to second.

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