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[BrendanPlutschak]

2 minutes ago, emmett16 said:

Krjerstad, Stowes, and Mayo have the chance to be a MOO bat.  Mayo's power tools shine brighter than anyone else's, for sure.  

Completely agree. There was a period of time where we thought and hoped it could be Mountcastle. Again, I think Mountcastle has breakout potential, but I'm not sure if he's ever going to be that 40 HR guy. He's a number 5 or 6 hitter on a World Series team. Mayo's bat has the potential where you don't care about defense. You find a spot for him somewhere if the bat turns into that middle of the order potential. 

[Jagwar]

Any chance Mayo could move across the diamond to play 1B?

[mlrhode]

50 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Was going to say the same thing.

Why are all of these publications rating GRod based on how he looked after the injury?

Those were rehab outings.

[Oriole1940]

Because

it is the Orioles.  Too risky for some.  Were it the Yankees, G Rod would be compared t0 the 2nd Coming.   

[emmett16]

24 minutes ago, Jagwar said:

Any chance Mayo could move across the diamond to play 1B?

I think that is “Plan C” if 3B and RF don’t work out. 

[wildcard]

Longenhagen is the only evaluator the whole off season that has had Westburg speed at 40.  Most have him at 55.  This is from when he did the O's ratings.

Can someone tell me what mediocre twitch is?   He says it in Ortiz writeup.

[Jagwar]

3 hours ago, emmett16 said:

I think that is “Plan C” if 3B and RF don’t work out. 

I'd much rather Elias come up with a few plan A's for 1B that don't involve rummaging through other teams' castoffs in the offseason. 

[btdart20]

6 hours ago, wildcard said:

Can someone tell me what mediocre twitch is?  

Somewhere between slow twitch (marathon muscles) and fast twitch (sprinter muscles).  It's probably his way of saying that Westburg doesn't have the quick burst speed/agility needed to play 2B/SS to cover the holes (i.e. why he's rated Westburg slower).  But home to second time might be pretty good.

 

[Moose Milligan]

7 hours ago, Jagwar said:

Any chance Mayo could move across the diamond to play 1B?

I think he has to. He’s a big enough target. SS/3B will be Holiday and Henderson most likely.  The system looks like it could be stocked with outfielders. 
 

Maybe he makes Mountcastle expendable at some point. 

[Sydnor]

8 hours ago, wildcard said:

Longenhagen is the only evaluator the whole off season that has had Westburg speed at 40.  Most have him at 55.  This is from when he did the O's ratings.

Can someone tell me what mediocre twitch is?   He says it in Ortiz writeup.

He’s saying that Ortiz’ reactions to the ball off the bat are just okay, not fast, but that he’s able to make up for it with instincts (positioning), body control, quick hands, and a strong arm.

This isn’t a 1:1 comparison, but the best I can do right now is to say think Ramon Urias, whose reactions aren’t that quick, but he makes up for it by catching everything he gets to, having quick hands, and delivering accurate throws. If you look at the advanced metrics, that is one explanation for why Urias looks so much better at third than at second (OAA, etc.). Ortiz has a better arm, range, etc. and that is why I said it’s not a 1:1 comparison, but that’s what Eric is getting at, while not necessarily questioning Ortiz’ ability to stick at short. I don’t have the time to try to find it now but Jon Shepherd said he thought, and that he had talked to scouts that thought, Ortiz would end up at third or second if he continued to put on muscle because of his reactions. I don’t agree with that take and would put significantly more stock in what Tony says than Jon, but it’s out there.

[wildcard]

3 hours ago, Sydnor said:

He’s saying that Ortiz’ reactions to the ball off the bat are just okay, not fast, but that he’s able to make up for it with instincts (positioning), body control, quick hands, and a strong arm.

This isn’t a 1:1 comparison, but the best I can do right now is to say think Ramon Urias, whose reactions aren’t that quick, but he makes up for it by catching everything he gets to, having quick hands, and delivering accurate throws. If you look at the advanced metrics, that is one explanation for why Urias looks so much better at third than at second (OAA, etc.). Ortiz has a better arm, range, etc. and that is why I said it’s not a 1:1 comparison, but that’s what Eric is getting at, while not necessarily questioning Ortiz’ ability to stick at short. I don’t have the time to try to find it now but Jon Shepherd said he thought, and that he had talked to scouts that thought, Ortiz would end up at third or second if he continued to put on muscle because of his reactions. I don’t agree with that take and would put significantly more stock in what Tony says than Jon, but it’s out there.

Thanks.  The Mateo, Gunnar, Ortiz comparison at SS is going to be interesting this season.

[Sports Guy]

9 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

I think he has to. He’s a big enough target. SS/3B will be Holiday and Henderson most likely.  The system looks like it could be stocked with outfielders. 
 

Maybe he makes Mountcastle expendable at some point. 

That will happen as soon as the AS break or by next year some time, maybe OD.

 

[emmett16]

9 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

I think he has to. He’s a big enough target. SS/3B will be Holiday and Henderson most likely.  The system looks like it could be stocked with outfielders. 
 

Maybe he makes Mountcastle expendable at some point. 

Mayo is a guy that likely gets traded so maybe a little work at those positions, but he should be showcased as a 3b to maintain his value.  If he can show viable at other positions while holding down 3B this year in AA that would be a plus.  

[Can_of_corn]

9 minutes ago, emmett16 said:

Mayo is a guy that likely gets traded so maybe a little work at those positions, but he should be showcased as a 3b to maintain his value.  If he can show viable at other positions while holding down 3B this year in AA that would be a plus.  

That only works if his play is worth showcasing.

[emmett16]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

That only works if his play is worth showcasing.

True.  If he struggles then yes he should be moved.  I don’t think he should be moved, at this juncture, to fill a team need.