Samuel Basallo 2023

[sportsfan8703]

On 4/26/2023 at 7:50 AM, Can_of_corn said:

Huh?

How about he plays himself off Catcher before we worry about that?

I think people are just so excited about the bat that they want him off catcher. The bat might only be 1.5 seasons away. As a catcher he likely is 3 seasons away. 

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I think people are just so excited about the bat that they want him off catcher. The bat might only be 1.5 seasons away. As a catcher he likely is 3 seasons away. 

I can't think of any instances in which a minor league catcher was held up for a season and a half because his glove wasn't ready.  Are you thinking of anything specific? 

We have seen other teams promote guys under 20 that play catcher.

Do you think that kid that plays for the Padres is going to be held back because of his position?

[Frobby]

8 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I can't think of any instances in which a minor league catcher was held up for a season and a half because his glove wasn't ready.  Are you thinking of anything specific? 

We have seen other teams promote guys under 20 that play catcher.

Do you think that kid that plays for the Padres is going to be held back because of his position?

The O’s have a stud catcher under control for 5 more seasons.  They have every reason to be patient with Basallo.  Anyway, we’ll see how he does as he moves up the ladder.  He’s doing well at Delmarva but he’s not so dominant there that there’s any rush to move him up.  

[AnythingO's]

43 minutes ago, Frobby said:

The O’s have a stud catcher under control for 5 more seasons.  They have every reason to be patient with Basallo.  Anyway, we’ll see how he does as he moves up the ladder.  He’s doing well at Delmarva but he’s not so dominant there that there’s any rush to move him up.  

Isn't it only 4 more after this season because of his ROY #2 finish or were you counting this current one?

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, AnythingO's said:

Isn't it only 4 more after this season because of his ROY #2 finish or were you counting this current one?

I was counting this year. 

[Can_of_corn]

45 minutes ago, Frobby said:

The O’s have a stud catcher under control for 5 more seasons.  They have every reason to be patient with Basallo.  Anyway, we’ll see how he does as he moves up the ladder.  He’s doing well at Delmarva but he’s not so dominant there that there’s any rush to move him up.  

That wasn't what I said at all.

I was saying that it isn't a given that a talented young catcher won't be promoted before the age of 20. 

 

[Frobby]

 

13 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

That wasn't what I said at all.

I was saying that it isn't a given that a talented young catcher won't be promoted before the age of 20. 

 

Promoted where, to hi A?  Sure.  Creed Willems was promoted last week and he doesn’t turn 20 until Sunday.  Pudge Rodriguez was in the majors at 19.  

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

 

Promoted where, to hi A?  Sure.  Creed Willems was promoted last week and he doesn’t turn 20 until Sunday.  Pudge Rodriguez was in the majors at 19.  

Exactly.

I was pushing back against the statement that a catcher would take 3 years instead of a year and a half.

I think there is a pretty good chance that kid for the Padres makes his debut at 18.

Edited June 2, 2023 by Can_of_corn

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Exactly.

I was pushing back against the statement that a catcher would take 3 years instead of a year and a half.

I think there is a pretty good chance that kid for the Padres makes his debut at 18.

I think it depends on his defense.  Pudge was studly defensively from day one.  He wasn’t much of a hitter until later.   Show me a bad defensive catcher who was in the majors at age 20.  

Point is, there’s a defensive threshold a catcher has to meet.  And if a player can’t stick at catcher, then the threshold for what he has to do on offense goes up.  

So back to Basallo.  He has a good arm, and my general impression is that he’s solid defensively for a young catcher in low A.   He’s not the Ryan Mountcastle of low A catchers, assigned to a position he obviously will never be able to handle. But that doesn’t mean he’s ready defensively to move up the ladder, or that they’ll move him the minute they think he’s ready for a promotion offensively.  
 

 

 

[Just Regular]

A knock and a couple RBI's to add to his league leading total as what the Fangraphs Age sort thinks is the only 18 year old hitter in the league.   His .290-ish batting average is RBI helpful, and Top 10 in the league.

 

[Alasdaire]

Basallo has an .860 OPS on the month as an 18-year-old catcher and this thread hasn't been bumped in over three weeks. We're spoiled.

[Daddy-O's]

Sure, but how's his pitch framing?

[One eyed Bird]

the Os will need him as a catcher, Adley will be traded in about 3 years to get max value for him with controllable years , Angelos will never pay him a market value contract, hopefully they won’t make the same mistake they made with Manny

[Moose Milligan]

8 minutes ago, One eyed Bird said:

the Os will need him as a catcher, Adley will be traded in about 3 years to get max value for him with controllable years , Angelos will never pay him a market value contract, hopefully they won’t make the same mistake they made with Manny

You should buy some Powerball tickets today. 

[Just Regular]

5 hours ago, Alasdaire said:

Basallo has an .860 OPS on the month as an 18-year-old catcher and this thread hasn't been bumped in over three weeks. We're spoiled.

Does anyone even care about the Jackson Holliday thread anymore?