Outfield Surplus?

[Aristotelian]

4 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

When you are acquiring a young talented player, you are acquiring them for what you think they will become, not necessarily for what they are today. 
 

The idea that he didn’t put up better numbers than a more established starter who is 2.5 years older isn’t relevant. 
 

And btw, fWAR gave Miller 1.9 and Kremer 1.5 and Kremer pitched more. K rates were the same. Walk rate greatly favored Miller. Miller had the better HR rate.

Miller’s FIP was 3.98….Kremer was 4.51.

So your narrative isn’t even true, at least not with all stats.

Sure there are more factors to consider but I don't know how you can say a full year of data is irrelevant, much less extremely irrelevant. 

[Sports Guy]

9 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Sure there are more factors to consider but I don't know how you can say a full year of data is irrelevant, much less extremely irrelevant. 

Ok, well that year of data shows Miller to be as good or better in many major categories.

[CaptainRedbeard]

MLBTR just posted an article that the Mariners’ GM said they are looking to add high-contact hitters and prefer a right handed bat.

All of Santander, Hays and Mountcastle hit RH and ran decent K rates. Not super high contact types, but all between 22-25%, which is around the league average 22.7% and pretty solid for their power output. The Mariners certainly need to add at least one corner bat, if not two.

Ortiz is also firmly in the high contact righty mold and 2B is another clear position they could stand to upgrade. The article also mentions that they may be looking to upgrade from Suarez at 3B too, as he’s in the last year of his deal and had a high K rate last year. Westburg was a bit over league average.

Some combination from the group of Santander/Hays/Mountcastle/Ortiz/Westburg for Miller/Woo/additional pitching makes a ton of sense for both teams right now. (Gilbert would as well, but he’d require more premium prospects and I doubt either team is inclined to go that route.)

That would also leave the Orioles with money to add an addition FA SP so they aren’t relying on the young arm to fill a 3/4 role in the rotation right away. 

[health55]

On 11/6/2023 at 9:01 AM, btdart20 said:

Because they are a competitive team with a weak offense.  Plus they have 7 SP options ready (plus Ray).  The #5 guy doesn't have to be a stud.  So it makes sense to speculate Miller or Hancock (or even Woo).

If I were the Seattle GM, I'd sign an OF type FA and hold off on a trade until they have a better idea of Ray's progress.  So maybe more involved at the trade deadline.  

FWIW - Hancock's injury was said to be a grade-1 strain.  It doesn't seem like an issue.  He's got more upside than Miller IMO.

Indeed the Seattle Mariners would like to improve on this year's team OPS+ of 106 and team ERA+ of 109.

Likewise the Orioles would like to improve on this year's team OPS+ of 107 and a team ERA+ of 106.