How do you feel about Marcus Stroman?

[Tryptamine]

2 hours ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

I'd probably rather just give Hall a shot at sticking as a starter than sign another #4ish guy tbh.

That "#4ish guy" has a 3.45 ERA since the start of 2021 a period spanning 454 1/3 IP. If Stroman is a #4, your staff is 90s Braves loaded.

[Three Run Homer]

If healthy he would likely be an upgrade to our playoff rotation.  He has been consistently effective in tough pitching environments.  He is crafty, not dependent on pure velocity, which gives him some insurance against physical decline.   The biggest downside is lack of durability.  

All in all I'd be happy to sign him to 2-3 years.  I'd rather have him and keep Cowser and Kjerstad than trade for Cease.

 

[Satyr3206]

I am on the fence. But I don't think the Orioles would pay what he wants.

[ChipTait]

Yes.  Especially if he dons jersey #0.

MARCUS    STR "O" MAN!

He was born to pitch in Baltimore!

[bpilktree]

2 hours ago, Jim'sKid26 said:

That's a lot of money for a guy who might give you around 20 starts and 140 IP. When he's healthy, he's effective but he's going to play most of 2024 as a 33 yo. He hasn't topped 150 IP in 3 years. I think I might pass on that.

He has made 25 or more starts in 6 of the last 7 years.  So no idea why you think he might give you 20 starts.  Starts per year minus Covid year 25,25,33,32,19,33,32 So he is averaging 28.5 starts over the last 7 years.  He doesn’t give you lot of innings for sure but he still makes a lot of starts.  

[Malike]

Doesn't give up many HRs, doesn't strike people out, and is a groundball pitcher. The biggest issue is he doesn't pitch many innings and if you are paying 20M+ for a pitcher, you want more than ~140 IP.

[KojiSplit]

3 hours ago, ScGO's said:

I'd start at 1 year 22 Million and see where it goes. I think he'd want a 1 year contract in order to try and have a monster season and then get a 3-5 year deal next year

He already opted out his 1 year 21mill remaining with the Cubs. He’s hoping to cash in now.

”Chicago Cubs right-hander Marcus Stroman opted out of the final year of contract on Saturday, giving up a $21 million salary for 2024.

https://apnews.com/article/marcus-stroman-cubs-b59f0ef1caaf1c1922c3400f9f45e05c

[Jim'sKid26]

52 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

He has made 25 or more starts in 6 of the last 7 years.  So no idea why you think he might give you 20 starts.  Starts per year minus Covid year 25,25,33,32,19,33,32 So he is averaging 28.5 starts over the last 7 years.  He doesn’t give you lot of innings for sure but he still makes a lot of starts.  

Average is 28 starts per year, range is 19-33. Switching leagues and going from NL central to AL East. Aging and small stature. I think his injury risk is high. Thus the 20 number. I could very well be wrong. But he kind of disappeared in the second half of 2023. Arm fatigue? Does a playoff caliber team continue to give him starts if he not effective? 

[bpilktree]

26 minutes ago, Jim'sKid26 said:

Average is 28 starts per year, range is 19-33. Switching leagues and going from NL central to AL East. Aging and small stature. I think his injury risk is high. Thus the 20 number. I could very well be wrong. But he kind of disappeared in the second half of 2023. Arm fatigue? Does a playoff caliber team continue to give him starts if he not effective? 

He went 6 innings or more in 14 of his first 16 starts with an ERA under 3.  He was then pulled in next start with hip and side discomfort and clearly was not healthy pitching.  After 3 poor starts he was put on the DL he was working his way back and it was discovered to actually have a hairline fracture in his rib cartilage which was actually the injury.  The injury had nothing to do with his arm though and more of a freak injury for pitchers.  

[DrinkinWithFermi]

2 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

That "#4ish guy" has a 3.45 ERA since the start of 2021 a period spanning 454 1/3 IP. If Stroman is a #4, your staff is 90s Braves loaded.

He's heading into his age 33 season and his Baseball Savant page for 2023 is almost all blue.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/marcus-stroman-573186?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb

Probably why he's still available for a 1 or 2 year deal in January and now reported to be throwing himself at the Yankees, who have apparently been ghosting him ever since.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/al-notes-mariners-white-sox-stroman-yankees.html#comment-3179928

He's a pass for me, we either need to aim higher or just give Hall the ball.

[Moose Milligan]

1 hour ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

 

He's a pass for me, we either need to aim higher or just give Hall the ball.

I'd prefer this, too.  

[Billy F-Face3]

I trust Mike Elias, Sigbot, and the Analytics Depertments to make this determination. I'm sure Eve Rosembaum will have something valuable to add to the discussion as well, when determining the contract $$$ evaluations.

[Billy F-Face3]

I do like the idea of giving Hall the ball. Let's see if he can be a starter in the Big Leagues. Give him a real opportunity like they did Grayson. Maybe Hall can have a career similar to Blake Snell.

[RZNJ]

D.L. Hall’s last 5 games including the playoffs.

7 IP, 2 H, 1 BB, 11 K

It’s tempting to see him as a starter but he might be the closest thing we have to Felix.  I think we need him in the pen this year.

[Sports Guy]

If you can’t add a good starter, sign Stephenson  for the pen and put Hall in the rotation.