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romorr
1:30
Speaking of ZiPS, Fabian was pretty high there, but the K% was pretty horrid once he got to AA. How many prospects K that much, that figure it out at that level? Steep hill to climb, no?
 
Eric A Longenhagen
1:30
Yes and did film work on his defense, which isn't CF fit for me
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romorr
1:44
I don't really think Chayce McDermott has done enough to be a starter, but there were some signs late. Still a MIRP/SIRP for  you? Or do you think there is "more" that could get him a spot in the rotation.
 
Eric A Longenhagen
1:45
of the guys with relief risk in that 45 FV area he's the one I think has the best chance to iron things out. he's so loose and long and athletic...gonna be an impact arm of some kind.
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Contented O
2:04
Are Norby and Cowser enough to headline a trade package for Cease? I think if they can get it done without moving Holliday Mayo Kjerstad Westburg Basallo, giddy up!
 
Eric A Longenhagen
2:04
not for me, bro.
 
 
Not even close
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3 minutes ago, Frobby said:
Contented O
2:04
Are Norby and Cowser enough to headline a trade package for Cease? I think if they can get it done without moving Holliday Mayo Kjerstad Westburg Basallo, giddy up!
 
Eric A Longenhagen
2:04
not for me, bro.
 
 
Not even close

I will never get old of fans wanting to package players they don't want in the origination for stars.

Maybe if they add Mateo?

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Longenhagen did an hour on the Effectively Wild podcast a few days back:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/effectively-wild-episode-2125-baseball-101/

Interesting implied bit on Holliday/Basallo's possible capability to handle top velocity.

Early question about top of list was Why is Wyatt Langford so good?    Beginning of the answer is his rare ability to "clean out" high velocity in compared to Chourio, etc.

But as Longenhagen ran through his Top 10, he went Chourio-Caminero-Wood-Lawlar-Crews as guys who have longer swings.    He did not draw that contrast with Holliday-Basallo.

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7 hours ago, Frobby said:
 
 
Angelus Novus
12:08
Why is Hollday (70) graded higher than pre-2023 Gunnar/Carroll (65s)? Who do you take over the next decade, from that group?
 
Eric A Longenhagen
12:08
Better perceived chance to stay at SS than I had of Gunnar at that point. Tough not to take Gunnar of those three in this moment.

Is he saying this because he likes Gunnar's defense more than the other two, or because he likes Gunnar overall more than the other two?  Liking Gunnar more overall is indeed high praise considering how much of a rock star Carroll was.

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32 minutes ago, Hallas said:

 

Is he saying this because he likes Gunnar's defense more than the other two, or because he likes Gunnar overall more than the other two?  Liking Gunnar more overall is indeed high praise considering how much of a rock star Carroll was.

Overall.  He and Carroll are really close in talent IMO, though slightly different skill sets.  Holliday still needs to show us what he can do at the highest level, but I’m confident he’ll impress.   

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Names to Know: 100 More Relevant Prospects | FanGraphs Baseball

Povich

Povich was a Pick to Click last year who didn’t quite click, as his strike throwing dissipated down the stretch. Acquired from Minnesota as part of the Jorge López trade, he added a cutter in 2023 but didn’t have a hoped-for velo spike. He’s amassed the fourth-most strikeouts in minor league baseball the last two years, his statuesque frame and effortless delivery are innings-eater characteristics (though he lacks great tactile feel for release), and he remains projected as a high-probability no. 4/5 starter. 

Norby

McDermott

McDermott is 25, but something about the way he’s built and moves (his brother is a pro hooper, the McDermotts are super long and athletic) has us hopeful that he’ll reign in his wildness. He sits 94 mph with flat angle and ride, and he has two nasty breaking balls — a 75-78 mph curveball and a 82-85 mph slider — that have utility versus both lefties and righties. 

Cowser

Johnson

Johnson was a Top 100 prospect a couple of years ago before an unfortunately timed Tommy John knocked him out for a couple of seasons. The Rays traded him to Baltimore as part of the Jose Siri/Trey Mancini three-team swap at the 2022 deadline (Chayce McDermott came from Houston in that deal too), and Johnson didn’t pitch at an O’s affiliate until late in 2023. He looked like his usual self, sitting 95 mph across just five short starts. While in 2021 it looked like things were going to work out for Johnson as a starter, in part because of the timing of his surgery and the pandemic, he hasn’t pitched all that much for the last five years. At peak, he would sit 92-97 and feature two good breaking balls, which would play in a bullpen if the Orioles quickly shift him into that role.

Pinto

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40 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

Names to Know: 100 More Relevant Prospects | FanGraphs Baseball

Povich

Povich was a Pick to Click last year who didn’t quite click, as his strike throwing dissipated down the stretch. Acquired from Minnesota as part of the Jorge López trade, he added a cutter in 2023 but didn’t have a hoped-for velo spike. He’s amassed the fourth-most strikeouts in minor league baseball the last two years, his statuesque frame and effortless delivery are innings-eater characteristics (though he lacks great tactile feel for release), and he remains projected as a high-probability no. 4/5 starter. 

Norby

McDermott

McDermott is 25, but something about the way he’s built and moves (his brother is a pro hooper, the McDermotts are super long and athletic) has us hopeful that he’ll reign in his wildness. He sits 94 mph with flat angle and ride, and he has two nasty breaking balls — a 75-78 mph curveball and a 82-85 mph slider — that have utility versus both lefties and righties. 

Cowser

Johnson

Johnson was a Top 100 prospect a couple of years ago before an unfortunately timed Tommy John knocked him out for a couple of seasons. The Rays traded him to Baltimore as part of the Jose Siri/Trey Mancini three-team swap at the 2022 deadline (Chayce McDermott came from Houston in that deal too), and Johnson didn’t pitch at an O’s affiliate until late in 2023. He looked like his usual self, sitting 95 mph across just five short starts. While in 2021 it looked like things were going to work out for Johnson as a starter, in part because of the timing of his surgery and the pandemic, he hasn’t pitched all that much for the last five years. At peak, he would sit 92-97 and feature two good breaking balls, which would play in a bullpen if the Orioles quickly shift him into that role.

Pinto

Thx. The “names to know” were clustered into themes descriptors and not stack ranked:

  • Issues w/defense (Norby)
  • low variance starters (Povich)
  • 2024 contenders relievers? (McDermott)
  • strong side platoon (Cowser)
  • Injured most of 2023 (Johnson)
  • Pitching prospects beginning 40 man platform year (Pinto)

notably, that there were 3 players listed “big league ready centerfield defenders” and Bradfield was not among them.

Also surprised to not see Beavers mentioned although that could be because did not match up to one of the themes. 

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