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Anthony Santander 2024


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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Because contracts extending into the 30's of players with similar profiles tend toward suboptimal results.

Ok but man this team can't hit for a lick now I would hate to see  it with one of their best hitters gone. All I know they better spend some money this year. You left Santa and Burnes go they better spend on other players then. 

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1 minute ago, Baseball fandom said:

Ok but man this team can't hit for a lick now I would hate to see  it with one of their best hitters gone. All I know they better spend some money this year. You left Santa and Burnes go they better spend on other players then. 

Were you in favor of a big contract for him entering the season?

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4 hours ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

SLAMtander walks it off with HR #42 and, boy, did we ever need that.

I'm really gonna miss him when he walks this winter, but he has definitely earned his big money free agent deal and I hope he gets every last penny he can from whoever wins the impending bidding war for his services.

We need to sign him. We don't need to be so cheap since we need a slugger!!!

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54 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

I agree it's unlikely but not completely far fetched. I don't think he is a lock to get more than $20M in AAV, so he could decide to take it and then hit FA if he has a good or even better year. His talent level is in a similar range as the players who have accepted: Joc Pederson, Jose Abreu, Wieters etc.

He's coming off a career year, he's about to turn 30, and he's arguably the #2 hitter after Juan Soto in this year's free agent class, AND basically everybody is desperate for offense right now. He will never have a better opportunity to cash in and he will 100% take advantage of that opportunity.

He will decline the QO without a moment's hesitation or second thought. 

12 minutes ago, Baseball fandom said:

Why shouldn't they not sign him? 

Mark Trumbo

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6 minutes ago, oriolediehard said:

We need to sign him. We don't need to be so cheap since we need a slugger!!!

Why do we have to?  What will happen if we don’t?

This is the same thing people have said about Burnes…we must re-sign him. Why? Did Milwaukee fall off?

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1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

Why do we have to?  What will happen if we don’t?

This is the same thing people have said about Burnes…we must re-sign him. Why? Did Milwaukee fall off?

Where would we be this year without Burnes and Santa? Next year we be without them, and we will be a weaker team!!!

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7 minutes ago, Pickles said:

His production this year isn't out of line with what he's done the last two years.

His 2024 OPS+ is 11 points higher than his previous full season career high.

Whether that's a fluke, a new gear, or a contract year mirage is up to the individual to decide.

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1 minute ago, Pickles said:

His production this year isn't out of line with what he's done the last two years.

It’s how best season by a pretty solid margin.  I’d agree it’s bit wildly out of line, but it’s a significant step forward for him.  

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9 minutes ago, oriolediehard said:

Where would we be this year without Burnes and Santa? Next year we be without them, and we will be a weaker team!!!

How do you know that?  We didn’t have Burnes last year and we were better. 
 

Acting as if 2025 will be the same as 2024 is illogical.

There is a ton of growth that can happen. Lots of other acquisitions can occur. 
 

This idea that if you lose a good player that you can’t replace him is literally proven wrong every year.

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    • I've made it clear that if they don't sign Santa and Burnes I'm ok with it as long as the money is allocated to other players they feel that fits their profile better .You know you have people on here like SG who only hears what he wants to hear. I need to learn to ignore that guy. 
    • Oh mr know it all. Who most times is wrong. Lol
    • I also think Santander will age better than Trumbo, despite my repeated comparisons of the two players. But I don't know that he will age better than Trumbo and all of the other one dimensional sluggers who were enjoying the retired millionaire sports star lifestyle by their mid-30s, and I don't want the Orioles to be on the hook when the world finds out in 2 or 3 years. Re-signing Santander to a 4 year, $80 million dollar deal is something the DD/PA regime would have done. Hopefully the ME/DR regime is smarter than that (and I think they are). 22nd percentile is really bad, man. And it's unlikely to improve in his 30s.
    • Looks like Baseball Fandom was at the game today!
    • But that is not what you said. You said he’s a bad fielder, just not quite Trumbo-tier. Thus, you were stating he is close to as bad a fielder as Trumbo was, which is not correct. Generally speaking, no player makes up the loss of offensive value with defensive value as the age. It is usually one of the first things to go. I was not making any sort of argument that he was going to make up declining offense with defense, just pointing out that you made a preposterous statement.
    • At least relative to the rest of the league Santander has an interesting profile because he is comfortably above-average at making contact; his whiff rates are much better than Trumbo's so he's not really as much of a TTO player as you would think.  This gives him hope that he will age a little bit better than someone like Trumbo.  Though he's still got a good shot of being out of the league in 3 years.
    • It's not the money, it's the years.  I wouldn't mind signing him for a year or two, even at what I'd consider to be stupid money.  But what I DON'T agree with is signing him for any more than 2-3 years as I don't think he's going to age well.  And I expect him to get more than 3 years from someone, so I'm a hard pass.  Can we afford him?  Money wise, sure.  But I don't want to see us stuck with him 4-5 years down the road when his skillset has greatly diminished, but he's still playing every day because we owe him a lot of money and a lot of loyalty.  Let some other club take that risk, get the QO pick and move on.  
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