Holliday, Mayo or Basallo

[maybenxtyr]

I don't dislike Holliday as a prospect,  but I would have hypothetically traded him for Skenes in that thread,  so my opinion hasn't changed.  Not that there's really anyone of that caliber available,  but that's what it would take to get either one of those 3.

[Pickles]

If we're normalizing the return- meaning they all get us the same return, which isn't accurate- then I'd move Basallo first as he's the highest risk in the group.

[Sports Guy]

I posted this poll on twitter less than an hour ago.

139 votes so far..Basallo 64%, Mayo 19% and Holliday 17%

[Too Tall]

Voted - Holliday. It's the Borus Thing and family too. My bias. Plus I firmly believe the other two are better prospects hence will have potentially longer value to the Orioles. 

[JimGinSP]

I voted Holliday because I feel Westburg is our rock.  He should be plugged in at 2nd  for the next 10 years.   So if I’m keeping Westburg one of Holliday or Henderson needs to become Robin Yount.  Not sure I’m comfortable playing that out over the next year.

 

[Sports Guy]

Just now, JimGinSP said:

I voted Holliday because I feel Westburg is our rock.  He should be plugged in at 2nd  for the next 10 years.   So if I’m keeping Westburg one of Holliday or Henderson needs to become Robin Yount.  Not sure I’m comfortable playing that out over the next year.

 

You know you can have Westburg and Holliday and Mayo right?

[Sports Guy]

One interesting thing is that it’s probably harder to sign Holliday to an extension vs the other 2. 

[Pickles]

17 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I posted this poll on twitter less than an hour ago.

139 votes so far..Basallo 64%, Mayo 19% and Holliday 17%

One of the rare times I think Twitter has a better take than the OH.

[JimGinSP]

3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

You know you can have Westburg and Holliday and Mayo right?

Henderson goes to center?   If that’s what you are suggesting I felt more comfortable with that scenario in April.  Henderson is now a legitimate MVP candidate.  Playing a premium position.  Represented by Scott Boras.   That’s a lot of discussion.

[Otter]

I certainly don't want to trade any of these 3 for the pitchers who are hypothetically on the market right now.  However, if forced to choose I'd pick Holliday.  And no, it's not because of his terrible small sample size in the majors or his pretty good but not great stats after returning to AAA.  I just think Mayo and Basallo have a higher upside.  Holliday has great all around tools, but Mayo and Basallo have a few elite tools.  It's rare to have someone like Mayo with elite power and bat to ball skills.  Holliday's bailing out is an issue for me and I suspect it will continue to be exploited by ML pitchers if he doesn't change.

[sportsfan8703]

12 minutes ago, Pickles said:

One of the rare times I think Twitter has a better take than the OH.

Consider Positional Value. 2B and 1B are the lowest of the starting 8. Catcher is the highest. 

[Too Tall]

13 minutes ago, Pickles said:

One of the rare times I think Twitter has a better take than the OH.

So we should all be A-Twitter?       I'll stick with OH. 

[banks703]

I chose Holliday not because I think that either of Basallo or Mayo are better prospects but given the Boras factor, the Gunnar entrenched at SS factor, the Westy factor, that Holliday probably is who lands the best return of the three (and for me, this four-year Gunnar/Adley window HAS to be prioritized) I just think that JH is who I would move. It would sting.. boy, it would sting but I would expect the return to be something in line with peak Chris Sale. Who that is currently in the league, I am not sure. I don't know that anyone of that level is even available. A true top of the rotation guy with some controllable years is what would HAVE to come back for me. I don't know if either of Mayo or Basallo get you that without having to tap more into the top 10 prospects.

I just think that the combo of Gunnar, Westy, Mayo, Basallo and the TOR guy is better net value over the next four or five years than Gunnar, Westy, Mayo, TOR/Gunnar, Westy, Basallo, TOR. 

 

[Pickles]

1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Consider Positional Value. 2B and 1B are the lowest of the starting 8. Catcher is the highest. 

2b is above the corner outfield on the defensive spectrum and about even with 3b.  So Holliday, if he develops into a good 2b will provide defensive value.

We'll see where Mayo ends up full-time, but I'm not willing to relegate him to 1b just yet.

While your point isn't exactly incorrect, it is still about risk in my assessment.  Basallo is the least likely to stick at C, and if he doesn't stick there, there's no RF option like there is for Mayo.

[Frobby]

I think the answer depends not only on talent, but where you see that talent fitting on this particular team.  For example, if we didn’t have Gunnar and Westburg, I don’t think you’d even dream about trading Holliday.   But since we do, trading Holliday is feasible.   And I think he’s the one I’d trade, for a couple of reasons:

1.  He’s the highest ranked of the three, and would bring back the most in a trade.

2.  The fact that Mayo is right-handed has a lot of value to us because our top younger guys are LH-heavy.  

3.  Basallo probably will end up four years behind Adley service-time wise, and gives us great flexibility to use them as a tandem, or trade Adley at some point, or just ride with Adley in through his Arb years and then hand the primary catcher gig to Basallo.  He’s also very capable at 1B, not something I’m sure I can say about Mayo at this point.   

I’d hate to trade any of the three, but that’s my current thinking.