Would you say that the Tigers rebuild is more successful than the O's?

[Camden_yardbird]

5 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

Hopefully Elias can luck his way into someone like Skubal.

I think he already had and it was Bradish.  Midling prospect who turns out to have #1 level stuff.  Injuries are a bitch.

[Baseball fandom]

Yep and in a much shorter timeframe too . Throw KC in there as well 

[Baseball fandom]

4 hours ago, JR Oriole said:

Had we won 4 of 6 against them instead of losing 4 of 6, they finish with 84 wins and Seattle takes their spot.  

They did go 20-12 (0.625) against the AL East this year, which is pretty solid. 

Yeah really that was a very bizarre comment buy him. That AL East record and they took 4 or 6 from Baltimore without Skubal pitching any of those games. Lol

[DirtyBird]

4 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

 

unlucky things happen to teams in October.

We took the guys who weren't good enough for that pen

[Sports Guy]

29 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:

We took the guys who weren't good enough for that pen

That’s not even remotely accurate 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

That’s not even remotely accurate 

We took the guys they figured they didn't need?

[OriolesMagic83]

6 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

It’s about talent. That’s why I mentioned the farm systems..and btw, the Tigers have 2 top 10 prospects

A lot of people were acting like the Tigers were a failed rebuild and needed a tear down as recent as mid season.  I'm not saying you were one.  It's funny what making the postseason and luck in the postseason will do.  I think one poster said they were almost devoid of offensive talent other than Greene.

[Sports Guy]

7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

We took the guys they figured they didn't need?

They had a ton of depth. Doesn’t mean they weren’t good enough for their pen. Money may have been a factor too. Ie, keep some of the cheaper guys(maybe more service time too?)

[Sports Guy]

2 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

A lot of people were acting like the Tigers were a failed rebuild and needed a tear down as recent as mid season.  I'm not saying you were one.  It's funny what making the postseason and luck in the postseason will do.  I think one poster said they were almost devoid of offensive talent other than Greene.

I thought they had to deal Skubal because I didn’t buy they could truly contend in 2025.

Now, they have had some unreal good luck but credit to them for how they have played.

It won’t surprise me if they miss the playoffs next year though. See how good Jobe can be next year. 

[eddie83]

16 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I thought they had to deal Skubal because I didn’t buy they could truly contend in 2025.

Now, they have had some unreal good luck but credit to them for how they have played.

It won’t surprise me if they miss the playoffs next year though. See how good Jobe can be next year. 

I think both DET and KC will need good fortune to make the playoffs next year. If either one had the injuries the 24 Orioles did they aren’t making it. 

[Say O!]

32 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

I think both DET and KC will need good fortune to make the playoffs next year. If either one had the injuries the 24 Orioles did they aren’t making it. 

Truth. That and also the CWS not being historically bad (just regular bad).

[SilverRocket]

6 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

All I'm saying it'd be nice to have a Skubal come through our system.  Does anyone really disagree with drafting and developing a Cy Young winner or is that something you guys aren't interested in?

Wouldn't say I'm uninterested, but there are a lot of ways to acquire players and drafting is only one of them. Of course it would be great if Elias were good at drafting pitchers, but if he knows he doesn't have an edge there then I'd rather he use the draft in areas where he does.  I really just care about the final result in the end.

As was mentioned, we did have one outstanding year from Bradish and he was looking great this year when he could play. And I think you're just rolling dice when it comes to starter injuries.

[Sanity Check]

8 hours ago, Spy Fox said:

Their season is more successful, but their rebuild is not more successful yet. Both stories are still being written.

The fact that they got past one round of the playoffs by wining meaningful games, in my mind, says that have been more successful.  We can get to the playoffs, but we can't seem to win the games, even with some very well-pitched games.

[e16bball]

1 hour ago, eddie83 said:

I think both DET and KC will need good fortune to make the playoffs next year. If either one had the injuries the 24 Orioles did they aren’t making it. 

The funny thing about DET and KC, and about discussing them in this way, is that they really don’t even have enough good players to replicate “injuries like we had” — let alone having enough talent left over to still make the playoffs after losing that much.

[Sanity Check]

2 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

That’s not even remotely accurate 

Actually, it was pretty accurate.  You don't trade top bullpen talent for Austin Hayes, and then a minor leaguer for Soto.  The Phillies clearly did not have confidence in those guys enough to think they were key to a world series championship, otherwise they would not have traded them for what they got back.