Showalter has a surprise for the team

[crissfan172]

More like Charles Johnson...

I believe Jorge Julio did the same thing in 2004.

[UpstateNYfan]

Girardi already thinks that Guthrie targets his golden boys. I don't like brawls(for the most part they are pathetic) and head hunting (helped Clemens), but, you need a chip and need to play in the AL East or you are puppy chow.

[BaltimoreTerp]

Alan Mills knocked Darryl Strawberry out on his arse in the dugout. Totally worth it.:thumbsup1:

Very true

Not sure who you are slamming here, those who think using brawls is cool idea for motivation or Buck for using it in the first place.

General use. I don't mind brawls when they happen naturally--someone makes an aggressive move towards my teammate so I'm going to go protect them (and lest we forget, there is very little actual fighting going on). However, the idea behind purposefully inciting a fight when:

1) The idea that it can actually benefit anyone is spurious at best and

2) You are far more likely to HURT your club through suspensions and injury

is simply insane to me.

[El Gordo]

Very true

General use. I don't mind brawls when they happen naturally--someone makes an aggressive move towards my teammate so I'm going to go protect them (and lest we forget, there is very little actual fighting going on). However, the idea behind purposefully inciting a fight when:

1) The idea that it can actually benefit anyone is spurious at best and

2) You are far more likely to HURT your club through suspensions and injury

is simply insane to me.

Yeah, look what happened with St. Louis and Cincy. St. Louis got all fired up, took the series and proceeded to tank the rest of the way.

[Fan4Life]

Very true

General use. I don't mind brawls when they happen naturally--someone makes an aggressive move towards my teammate so I'm going to go protect them (and lest we forget, there is very little actual fighting going on). However, the idea behind purposefully inciting a fight when:

1) The idea that it can actually benefit anyone is spurious at best and

2) You are far more likely to HURT your club through suspensions and injury

is simply insane to me.

Can't argue that. Are there any stats to support this? LOL :wedge:

[Mr Snuffleupagus]

Very true

General use. I don't mind brawls when they happen naturally--someone makes an aggressive move towards my teammate so I'm going to go protect them (and lest we forget, there is very little actual fighting going on). However, the idea behind purposefully inciting a fight when:

1) The idea that it can actually benefit anyone is spurious at best and

2) You are far more likely to HURT your club through suspensions and injury

is simply insane to me.

I agree in principal, but there is something to be said about a team who has a "don't eff with us" attitude. It's a confidence this team hasn't had in some time. I hope with the influx of new guys, and with Buck at the helm, this team grows a pair.

[Fan4Life]

I agree in principal, but there is something to be said about a team who has a "don't eff with us" attitude. It's a confidence this team hasn't had in some time. I hope with the influx of new guys, and with Buck at the helm, this team grows a pair.

Agreed but Confucius says " He who wins game gets last laugh".

[TonySoprano]

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ETA

Orioles vs. Yankees (May 19, 1998)

After O's closer Armando Benitez gave up what turned out to be the game-winning three-run homer to Bernie Williams in the eighth inning, he took out his frustration on Tino Martinez, drilling him between the shoulder blades. Yankee pitcher Graeme Lloyd became so incensed at the spectacle that he raced in from the bullpen to get in a lick at Benitez. The fight moved toward the O's dugout, with Darryl Strawberry throwing what the Baltimore Sun called a "sucker punch" at Benitez, swinging so hard that he ended up in the Baltimore dugout. Then Alan Mills pounded Strawberry, bloodying his face.

"I've never seen anything like that in 25 years," said George Steinbrenner. "That guy ... that pitcher ... should be suspended for the rest of the year. That was a classless act. He's got no class."

Yankee manager Joe Torre agreed with his boss. "It was so blatant," he said. "Benitez caused a riot. That's the downside to the designated hitter. The pitcher gets braver when he doesn't have to face the music."

source - ESPN

The brawl, which lasted almost 10 minutes, started with Yankees left-hander Graeme Lloyd sprinting in from the bullpen to charge Benitez. Eventually the fight rolled toward the Orioles' dugout with designated hitter Darryl Strawberry taking a sucker punch at Benitez. The force of Strawberry's swing carried him into the dugout, with players from both teams following. Alan Mills led the way, and pounded Strawberry in the face. Strawberry emerged with a bloodied mouth and a sore left hand after being restrained by Orioles bench coach Eddie Murray, third baseman Cal Ripken and Yankees manager Joe Torre.

source - The Sun

[crissfan172]

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ETA source - ESPN

source - The Sun

Grown men acting like children. :rolleyestf:

[JDubs]

As usual, I'm going to trust Buck's gut here. You don't have to believe in brawls to use past fist-to-cuffs to pump up your team. Stupid or not, there is something galvanizing about throwing down with your brothers. It's really no different than the calculated manager hissy fits. It may look stupid, but it is done for a reason.

Seems to me like Buck is trying to instill some 'street' in this years team to get rid of past attitudes of beaten resignation. It's a little extreme, but why the heck not. Of course, 'street' only applies to the attitude. The hats better fit and be brim forward. Don't want Buck escorting you to the equipment room.:laughlol:

[Fan4Life]

As usual, I'm going to trust Buck's gut here. You don't have to believe in brawls to use past fist-to-cuffs to pump up your team. Stupid or not, there is something galvanizing about throwing down with your brothers. It's really no different than the calculated manager hissy fits. It may look stupid, but it is done for a reason.

Seems to me like Buck is trying to instill some 'street' in this years team to get rid of past attitudes of beaten resignation. It's a little extreme, but why the heck not. Of course, 'street' only applies to the attitude. The hats better fit and be brim forward. Don't want Buck escorting you to the equipment room.:laughlol:

There's always the possibility the brawl was used as a How not to Behave example and that winning the game was the best demoralizer of your opponent.

[Fan4Life]

I envisioned parts of Orioles glorious years past with the stands full and Orioles Magic vibrating from the screen.. to show the real history of this team, not just the recent one... as well as underdog motivational type stuff.. brawls might be one idea..

Score one for the home team...

http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2011/02/two-thumbs-up-for-showalters-film.html

....."It was past and present guys, and some highlights when Camden Yards was packed to the brim with all Oriole fans. That's what we want to get this back to. We have such a great fan base. We want to be a part of it and really get after it. These are exciting times. We've got everything, so this is it. Let's do it."

[Austin]

"It was awesome. It was off the chain," pitcher Rick VandenHurk said.

A little off-topic, but something about a Dutch guy saying "off the chain" makes me laugh. I really hope Jones is messing with him, teaching him some phrases like Darryl does with Michael Scott.

Bippity-boppity gimme the zoppity.

[HokieOrange]

[quote=Hank Scorpio;2372331

No truth to the rumor that he's just intentionally furthering Trea's man crush.

What about the rumor that Buck hired a Teixera look-a-like to be buried alive in pinstripes?

I also heard the video included clips of Prince Fielder launching moon shots followed by clips of several of our young arms carrying their bags out to their cars?

Edit: Fail on the quoting. Whatever.

[weams]

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