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Bourne doesn't make sense for us because we're not moving Jones out of CF and all of Bourn's value is in his defense.

This comment is completely untrue. Bourn is one of the premier lead off men and stolen base threats in the game. To argue that he wouldn't improve the team offensively is a statement I can't imagine many will get behind.

And I'm not condoning signing or not signing him. It really depends on the number of years of the contract to me. I think I could live with losing the draft pick though. I do like the idea of shifting Reimold to DH and moving McLouth out of an everday role though. I think Reimold's long term future is either at DH or 1b.

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Yeah, not all of his value but a good amount. Enough that you don't want to sign him long term if he's not playing CF. if he would take a 1 year deal and try again next year, I'd sign him even for LF.

You have to be realistic. A player of Bourn's caliber is not going to have to settle for a 1 year deal. Edwin Jackson for goodness sake was able to secure a multi-year deal. If you don't want the team to sign him that's fine, but don't put a ridiculous parameter out there that we know isn't realistic.

And one the whole Adam Jones thing, I think Adam has matured quite a bit in the last year. And I think he'd be able to check his pride and do what was best for the team, if they asked him to move to LF. And imagine how incredible that OF would be...

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You have to be realistic. A player of Bourn's caliber is not going to have to settle for a 1 year deal. Edwin Jackson for goodness sake was able to secure a multi-year deal. If you don't want the team to sign him that's fine, but don't put a ridiculous parameter out there that we know isn't realistic.

And one the whole Adam Jones thing, I think Adam has matured quite a bit in the last year. And I think he'd be able to check his pride and do what was best for the team, if they asked him to move to LF. And imagine how incredible that OF would be...

A one year deal is really a two year deal in that you will present a qualifying offer. Maybe he will be worth more that 14 million after next year and walk away from that. Maybe. Maybe he will like Buck and want to stay.

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You have to be realistic. A player of Bourn's caliber is not going to have to settle for a 1 year deal. Edwin Jackson for goodness sake was able to secure a multi-year deal.

The major difference is the draft pick compensation. That IS a big deal. There is a reason Jackson got 4/52 but Kyle Lohse does not even have a single offer in hand.

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You have to be realistic. A player of Bourn's caliber is not going to have to settle for a 1 year deal. Edwin Jackson for goodness sake was able to secure a multi-year deal. If you don't want the team to sign him that's fine, but don't put a ridiculous parameter out there that we know isn't realistic.

You mean the same Edwin Jackson who took a 1 year deal last year? This happens, look at Beltre with Boston a few years ago.

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You mean the same Edwin Jackson who took a 1 year deal last year? This happens, look at Beltre with Boston a few years ago.

You missed my point. Comparing Bourn to Jackson is like apples to oranges. Or apples to old rotting fruit rather. If someone like Jackson can land a mult-year deal, then you can bet Bourn will get one. It may not be the three or four year deal he was hoping for, but he's not going to settle for anything less thatn 2 years. Someone will bite.

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You missed my point. Comparing Bourn to Jackson is like apples to oranges. Or apples to old rotting fruit rather. If someone like Jackson can land a mult-year deal, then you can bet Bourn will get one. It may not be the three or four year deal he was hoping for, but he's not going to settle for anything less thatn 2 years. Someone will bite.
At this point I'd be surprised if Bourn signs for more than one year. The pick is holding up the handful of teams interested in him. Boras client, want 4 years and $$$$, most likely takes a pillow deal.

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You missed my point. Comparing Bourn to Jackson is like apples to oranges. Or apples to old rotting fruit rather. If someone like Jackson can land a mult-year deal, then you can bet Bourn will get one. It may not be the three or four year deal he was hoping for, but he's not going to settle for anything less thatn 2 years. Someone will bite.

I get that. I think you're missing the point. Sometimes guys would rather sign a 1 year deal and hope that the FA market is better next year, just like Beltre and Jackson did. Next year looks to be a weak FA market.

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Bourne's not coming.

Good. I just don't see the huge upgrade he'd give the O's if he plays LF. Last year was his first year with more than 2 homers. He gives you virtually the same OBP that McLouth does. Is he really that much better defensively in LF than McLouth? In CF, yes - he is that much better than McLouth; but LF? I doubt it.

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I'm glad Buck is losing sleep over it. It's a tough decision and I agree with both the pros and cons Buck hinted at.

In some ways, I would be ecstatic to see them sign Bourn in mid Feb to a short term contract (once he gets a little more desperate). But in other ways, I worry with Buck about what it means for the rest of the team (and a little for the draft pick).

Is it worth it? That's the big question and I'm on pins and needles wondering how it will play out.

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