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Some closure, Re: Burnett choosing Philly


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Thanks very much for the information. It is often hard to know what is exactly going on in these type of situations. It would be interesting to know why Burnett was pretty quickly "not interested" in the Orioles. It could not be the family excuse which his side has put out there the whole time (rather than money, for example, which we were endlessly told was not AJ's motivation). It seems either he just doesn't like the AL East in general or the Orioles organization in particular or both. It seems exactly like the old days of the "Confederate" money where the Orioles were known as such a problematic organization that no free agent was going to sign with them, no matter how much the money. But, unfortunately, I tend to think that the Orioles did not match the money offered by the Phillies and would have had to beat it to get him to consider the AL East.

This also could be another Bronson Arroyo type deal. The Orioles may have offered more (unlikely) but Burnett felt 7m wasnt worth the risk if a failed physical cost him with another team. Would the Phillies have offered 23m guaranteed if he failed an Orioles physical? I don't know.

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Roch Kubatko Mod Oriolesarecheap • 2 minutes ago −

The Orioles were in on him all along. Maybe agent didn't relay that or there's confusion. Whatever. O's were greatly interested

From Roch blog

So now Roch is resorting to blaming Burnetts agent for not relaying information? Maybe, but why do these circus type situations seem to happen to the Orioles so much?

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Oriolesarecheap • 34 minutes ago −

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 1h

Burnett on whether he had interest from #Orioles and #Nationals, both of which play closer to his home in Monkton, Md.: “Not much at all.”

Roch thoughts?

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Roch Kubatko Mod Oriolesarecheap • 2 minutes ago −

The Orioles were in on him all along. Maybe agent didn't relay that or there's confusion. Whatever. O's were greatly interested

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The poster was given the information by someone who was associated with A.J. Burnett on a personal level. Yes. The poster is someone I trust completely. For many reasons.

I'm also aware of who the poster was -- someone who has been here forever and never claimed any insider information at any other time in the past. I have no doubt at all that he was told what he said he was told, by someone close to Burnett.

In any event, I've learned over the years, not just on this website or following the Orioles but in general, that people don't always tell the media the truth, the media don't always accurately report the facts even when they are capable of verifying them, and people interpret what they read the way they want to, believing the parts that support their point of view and discrediting the parts that contradict it. At the end of the day, there's one incontrovertible fact: we didn't get AJ Burnett. Posters can believe whatever they want to believe as to why.

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What's wrong with the Olive Garden. It's not Morton's but is that where you usually eat? I stay home and drink chicken broth because I can't afford McDonald's.

I worked at the Olive Garden, you're better off getting cheaper takeout pasta from the local pizza place - literally the same stuff. The salad is nothing more than Kraft garden blend you get from the grocery. The soup is frozen and delivered bi-weekly.

It is all the worst kind of pre-packaged food jacked up to insane profit-margin prices. Especially the cheaper than cheap wine.

The Olive Garden comes to town and kills the smaller family diner-style places that actually do MAKE THINGS ON PREMISES.

Don't go out, cook for yourself, save many many dollars, be 20xs healthier, go out to nice place with money saved, continue to win at life.

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I'm also aware of who the poster was -- someone who has been here forever and never claimed any insider information at any other time in the past. I have no doubt at all that he was told what he said he was told, by someone close to Burnett.

In any event, I've learned over the years, not just on this website or following the Orioles but in general, that people don't always tell the media the truth, the media don't always accurately report the facts even when they are capable of verifying them, and people interpret what they read the way they want to, believing the parts that support their point of view and discrediting the parts that contradict it. At the end of the day, there's one incontrovertible fact: we didn't get AJ Burnett. Posters can believe whatever they want to believe as to why.

I know. I did appreciated that our friend kept us in the loop so that we did not get our hopes up. As Roch has since reported, the Orioles knew AJ was not coming a week before he signed.

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Let me get this straight. All this baloney slicing is based on a tweet from Nightengale paraphrasing something he says AJ said? Does any one have any media sources to site about the 23 M? Or what Nightingale says AJ said? I don't give much credence to any ones "tweets". :rolleyestf:

Agreed. This is not exactly an era of quality journalism in the Twitter age. But it is bulletproof accurate information to a few folks that are very persistent and seem to have it all figured out. When it fits their narrative of course.

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Has everyone missed the fact that the Monkton neighbor connection is the former assistant GM of the Orioles? Hmm...

I knew who Scott was. I was not certain that it was relevant. I am very glad that Proefrock and Joe Jordan are in Philly.

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Agreed. This is not exactly an era of quality journalism in the Twitter age. But it is bulletproof accurate information to a few folks that are very persistent and seem to have it all figured out. When it fits their narrative of course.

It came from A.J Mouth is that not good enough for you?

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And I said it the minute I read that nonsense. It was so obviously made up and a complete fabrication it wasn't even funny. Sorry I am not so naive as some around here.

Little refresher from the thread when I called out that fairy tale of a story and pressed the issue.

http://forum.orioleshangout.com/forums/showthread.php/138876-Phillies-have-agreed-to-a-one-year-deal-with-A-J-Burnett/page115

Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back. Nevermind the fact that there is still a pretty good chance you are wrong.

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I knew who Scott was. I was not certain that it was relevant. I am very glad that Proefrock and Joe Jordan are in Philly.

I knew you would remember, weams. I am just surprised none of the anti-Angelos posters has picked it up yet.

Btw, I don't think it's meaningful one way or the other.

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I knew you would remember, weams. I am just surprised none of the anti-Angelos posters has picked it up yet.

Btw, I don't think it's meaningful one way or the other.

Me either. And I an as anti-Angelos as anyone. I just don't think that he is particularly relevant any longer. I think his greatest flaw is not being even more incredibly wealthy. In ways that do not include the owning of the Orioles, Firm, and RSN. For instance, I wish he had 500 million sitting around collecting .08 percent interest. We could sure make a case for a different investment for him.

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