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So with 11 voters 4 players make the OH HOF as of today

R Johnson 91%

M Piazza 91%

P Martinez 81%

T Raines 81%

We will see how close that is to the writers voting.

Would be a HUGE jump for Raines. I had read that a side effect of the new provision on time the players could stay on the ballot might lead to a bump for Raines but I would be shocked to see him get that much of the vote.

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How about Boog Powell, 339 HRs, OPS+ 134, 3 times in top 3 A.L. MVP voting including winner in 1970?

Powell not so much; although he'd be a better 1B than some in the hall, he'd be marginally better than Jim Bottomley. There are a lot of 1B that he can be historically lumped in with, including but not limited to Joe Adcock, Norm Cash, Cecil Cooper, Jack Fournier, Kent Hrbek, Gil Hodges and Don Mattingly. Carlos Delgado will join the group after this election if he doesn't clear 5%.

Out of that group, I support Norm Cash the most. Detractors point to his 1961 season and that he could never duplicate it, but he was a more consistent hitter than Boog from year to year and he had a good (not great) glove.

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Ryan Thibs' Hall of Fame Tracker has collected 101 ballots, or 17.69% of last year's total. LINK

100 (99.01%) Randy Johnson

100 (99.01%) Pedro Martinez

91 (90.10%) John Smoltz

85 (84.16%) Mike Piazza

83 (82.18%) Craig Biggio

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72 (71.29%) Jeff Bagwell

65 (64.63%) Tim Raines

61 (60.40%) Curt Schilling

48 (47.52%) Barry Bonds

47 (46.53%) Roger Clemens

47 (46.53%) Mike Mussina

26 (25.74%) Edgar Martinez

23 (22.77%) Alan Trammell

14 (13.86%) Fred McGriff

13 (12.87%) Jeff Kent

13 (12.87%) Lee Smith

9 (8.91%) Larry Walker

8 (7.92%) Mark McGwire

7 (6.93%) Gary Sheffield

6 (5.94%) Sammy Sosa

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2 (1.98%) Don Mattingly

1 (0.99%) Carlos Delgado

1 (0.99%) Nomar Garciaparra

Votes per public ballot: 9.16, on track to break last year's record. Past trackers indicate that this number will go down, and so will the voting percentages except for some of those milling around 5%. Johnson and Martinez are very close to statistical locks, and Smoltz looks very good. Biggio has gained enough votes so far to clear the mark if the rest of his 2014 votes are kept. If Mike Piazza holds on through the quiet vote, which I think is iffy, we will have our first five member BBWAA group since the inaugural group in 1936.

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Ryan Thibs' Hall of Fame Tracker has collected 101 ballots, or 17.69% of last year's total. LINK

Votes per public ballot: 9.16, on track to break last year's record. Past trackers indicate that this number will go down, and so will the voting percentages except for some of those milling around 5%. Johnson and Martinez are very close to statistical locks, and Smoltz looks very good. Biggio has gained enough votes so far to clear the mark if the rest of his 2014 votes are kept. If Mike Piazza holds on through the quiet vote, which I think is iffy, we will have our first five member BBWAA group since the inaugural group in 1936.

I think Piazza won't make it and that Walker and Mattingly may fall off.

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We're up to 133 ballots, or 23.29% of last year's total. LINK

132 (99.25%) Randy Johnson

131 (98.50%) Pedro Martinez

118 (88.72%) John Smoltz

107 (80.45%) Craig Biggio

106 (79.70%) Mike Piazza

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89 (66.92%) Jeff Bagwell

89 (66.92%) Tim Raines

73 (54.89%) Curt Schilling

60 (45.11%) Barry Bonds

60 (45.11%) Roger Clemens

51 (38.35%) Mike Mussina

37 (27.82%) Edgar Martinez

31 (23.31%) Alan Trammell

24 (18.05%) Lee Smith

18 (13.53%) Jeff Kent

18 (13.53%) Fred McGriff

11 (8.27%) Mark McGwire

11 (8.27%) Larry Walker

10 (7.52%) Gary Sheffield

7 (5.26%) Sammy Sosa

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6 (4.51%) Don Mattingly

1 (0.75%) Carlos Delgado

1 (0.75%) Nomar Garciaparra

Votes per public ballot are down to 8.99.

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Jeff Bagwell

Craig Biggio

Roger Clemens

Randy Johnson

Pedro Martinez

Mike Mussina

Curt Schilling

I think of myself as a "small Hall" guy, and I could have easily voted for 15 players. Any BBWAA member that turns in a blank ballot or only votes for 1 player this year should have his/her vote taken away. Johnson, Bagwell, Biggio, and Pedro are no brainers in my book. Bagwell is around the 5th best 1B all time. Mussina is a step above Smoltz and Schilling. Schilling had a more dominant peak than Smoltz by my amateur analysis. Smoltz was part of the "Big 3" in Atlanta, so no doubt that will get him in. Clemens and Bonds both deserve to be in the hall some day. Maybe they can have their own wing w/ Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe, etc. It's hard to say why I voted for Clemens over Bonds maybe b/c he is more likeable. Yep, I have totally arbitrary standards just like the actual voters. :smile11:

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Encouraging but I think those most likely to go public are those with the more expansive ballots.

Last year set the record with 8.39 votes per ballot. With a full quarter nearly accounted for, I think we're going to see about the same number by the end. About 50% of the voters filled out a full ballot, and the sense is most of them are just replacing Maddux/Glavine/Thomas with Johnson/Martinez/Smoltz. Biggio is the wild card, he just needs to pick up a couple votes.

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How about Boog Powell, 339 HRs, OPS+ 134, 3 times in top 3 A.L. MVP voting including winner in 1970?

I love Boog, and I'm a large Hall guy, but he has a lower career value and fewer 5-win seasons than Jim Rice. And I put Jim Rice in the grey area. Setting aside BBQ I could argue that John Olerud has a better resume than Boog.

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