Jonathan Schoop could be headed for Stardom

[Chito]

Hard to get guys to be more selective when you give a guy who strikes out over 200 times a year a 7 year contract as a reward.

Davis has 80-plus walks. Schoop has 19.

[LookitsPuck]

Homer or bust, Jonathon Schoop. His approach after the leadoff double by Mancini was atrocious. As a matter of fact, this entire lineup doesn't shorten their swing.

Manny might have been the only one to adjust this game. Everyone else looked atrocious outside of Mancini.

[Mayor McCheese]

Swing for the fences. Strike 1.

Swing for the fences. Strike 2.

Swing for the fences. Strike 3.

look confused and Return to bench.

Great approach Schoop! :angryfire:

[Babypowder]

Hard to get guys to be more selective when you give a guy who strikes out over 200 times a year a 7 year contract as a reward.

You know, except that Davis is one of the most selective hitters on the team and leads them in walks.

Not that I'm defending the contract.

[sportsfan8703]

I love Schoop, but 19 BB's in 611 PA's. 15 GIDP's. Constantly being behind in the count. He could be so much better. Heard that before with Jones though.

[Redskins Rick]

Cal Ripken, lead the league in hitting into DPs.

Can you image the way, OH would treat him, and he is a first round HOF?

SMH

[Can_of_corn]

Cal Ripken, lead the league in hitting into DPs.

Can you image the way, OH would treat him, and he is a first round HOF?

SMH

The Orioles dominate the all time top 10 list for GIDP.

[Redskins Rick]

The Orioles dominate the all time top 10 list for GIDP.

When you are not fleet of foot, and you hit hard ground balls, you are going to get hit into DP, its just a fact of life.

[WEAVERMAN]

Swing for the fences. Strike 1.

Swing for the fences. Strike 2.

Swing for the fences. Strike 3.

look confused and Return to bench.

Great approach Schoop! :angryfire:

I love JS, but your point is well taken. Let's get better.

[ORIOLE33]

Cal Ripken, lead the league in hitting into DPs.

Can you image the way, OH would treat him, and he is a first round HOF?

SMH

I'm going to assume guys like Pujols and Ortiz are near the top of grounding into DP's all time.

[ORIOLE33]

For the record, I was right and wrong. Pujols is 3rd and Ortiz, surprisingly is only 46.

[Frobby]

I'm going to assume guys like Pujols and Ortiz are near the top of grounding into DP's all time.

For the record, I was right and wrong. Pujols is 3rd and Ortiz, surprisingly is only 46.

Ortiz has a very low GB/FB ratio, 0.57 compared to MLB average of 0.79 in his career. Pujols is more normal, 0.71. Cal, the all-time GIDP leader, is at 0.85 for the years in which GB/FB data is available (1988 and after).

There's a very good chance that Pujols will surpass Cal in GIDP next year. He's only 15 behind. With five seasons left to go on his contract, and averaging about 20 GIDP a year, he should mutilate that record.

[O's84]

Ortiz has a very low GB/FB ratio, 0.57 compared to MLB average of 0.79 in his career. Pujols is more normal, 0.71. Cal, the all-time GIDP leader, is at 0.85 for the years in which GB/FB data is available (1988 and after).

There's a very good chance that Pujols will surpass Cal in GIDP next year. He's only 15 behind. With five seasons left to go on his contract, and averaging about 20 GIDP a year, he should mutilate that record.

Yeah look on the list of players with the most DP career wise. A Lot of HOF's, Hank Aaron is one of the top of my head. Of course those players have more games and PA's than most players.

[Frobby]

Yeah look on the list of players with the most DP career wise. A Lot of HOF's' date=' Hank Aaron is one of the top of my head. Of course those players have more games and PA's than most players.[/quote']

That's the main point. I'm sure you could find lots of players with a higher DP rate than Cal. But they didn't have 12,883 plate appearances. Cal's career DP rate (GIDP per opportunity) was 13% (11% is MLB average). Just to pick a random slow guy, Frank Howard's career DP rate was 15%. But he only had 7,352 plate appearances. Pujols is at 14%.

Strikeouts also play into it. Chris Davis has a career GIDP rate of only 6%. A big part of that is that he is whiffing about three times more often than a guy like Pujols.

Edit: Just noodling around, Billy Butler has a career 19% GIDP rate.

[crawjo]

Slow right-handed hitters hit into a lot of double plays. Not exactly hard to figure out why.