weams Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 This. I am surprised nobody mentioned this. Isn't he doing what Andrews said??? There were several doctors that advised this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weams Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Well, he did have surgery in June of that year so SOME of it was true. Correct. I appreciate that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tx Oriole Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Well, his career is over I sure hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weams Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 I sure hope not. People have had three Tommy John surgeries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomic Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 People have had three Tommy John surgeries. Before they make it to high A? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Ravine Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Is it a given that TJ surgery is the answer? This (the flexor mass thing) has become a fairly frequent diagnosis for pitchers but is TJ a common outcome? I believe the Orioles are following Dr. Andrew's recommendations. I won't/can't blame them for that. This. I am surprised nobody mentioned this. Isn't he doing what Andrews said??? You mean major reconstructive surgery on a body part that has lots of money leveraged on it is not the obvious response to a sore elbow? My Google knowledge of the topic is that diagnosing discomfort in that area for a pitcher is not easy peasy, and there are lots of pitchers who rested (e.g. Andrew Miller) and came back fine....because the issue was muscle related. I think until you see a clear sign that the tendon is gone, you hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpinJr Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 ...... Age and options are on the O's side.......Let us find solace in Dylan Bundy Day at least. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk The above are exactly what I will be holding on to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan8703 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 You mean major reconstructive surgery on a body part that has lots of money leveraged on it is not the obvious response to a sore elbow?My Google knowledge of the topic is that diagnosing discomfort in that area for a pitcher is not easy peasy, and there are lots of pitchers who rested (e.g. Andrew Miller) and came back fine....because the issue was muscle related. I think until you see a clear sign that the tendon is gone, you hope. The bad thing about Harvey though is that is elbow should have healed when he missed all that time for the non elbow related injuries. He's had some freak injuries since 2012 if I remember right; 2012- oblique injury while doing leg warmups? A liner that broke his leg in ST His groin injury this year. I think this was all him. So he could have hurt it awhile ago and just was never healthy enough to actually throw off a mound and see if he needed TJ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esmd Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Sucks. Sounds like TJ is likely required. Hey, he's still young, and his career is most certainly NOT over. Get it fixed, rehab it, and then get back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xian4 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Has anyone survived two visits to Dr Andrews without having TJ surgery <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hunter Harvey will have elbow examined by Dr Andrews. That's all I've got for update <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/orioles?src=hash">#orioles</a></p>— Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href=" ">July 18, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene88 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Has anyone survived two visits to Dr Andrews without having TJ surgery<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hunter Harvey will have elbow examined by Dr Andrews. That's all I've got for update <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/orioles?src=hash">#orioles</a></p>? Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href=" ">July 18, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> No. He is definitely going to have TJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OFFNY Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 o Hunter Harvey to Undergo Tommy John Surgery on Tuesday (By Roch Kubatko) http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2016/07/hunter-harvey-to-undergo-tj-surgery-on-tuesday.html o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene88 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I often wonder have these not gone well? I mean has Andrews done TJ on someone's junk by accident? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntoriole Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I often wonder have these not gone well? I mean has Andrews done TJ on someone's junk by accident? Although generally a well tolerated procedure as surgeries go, make no mistake. This is major surgery and there have been occasional disasters. But, the ultimate question is the rehab and return to function. The best studies have identified about 80 percent of major league pitchers who undergo TJ surgery return to their prior level of functioning (i.e. at a major league level). https://sciencelife.uchospitals.edu/2014/03/04/do-major-league-pitchers-throw-as-hard-after-tommy-john-surgery/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Rick Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Although generally a well tolerated procedure as surgeries go, make no mistake. This is major surgery and there have been occasional disasters. But, the ultimate question is the rehab and return to function. The best studies have identified about 80 percent of major league pitchers who undergo TJ surgery return to their prior level of functioning (i.e. at a major league level). https://sciencelife.uchospitals.edu/2014/03/04/do-major-league-pitchers-throw-as-hard-after-tommy-john-surgery/ Dr Andrews is world renowned as one of the best at this, and I suspect has a higher than 80% return to prior level of functioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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